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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: epicure who wrote (6703)	2/8/2003 7:23:11 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 25898

Well , it would be nice to begin to scale down our own mass-consumer oriented society , which tends to gluttony and goes over the top too often and extremely wasteful. And yet it is a great entangled mess woven into the global fabric of the people's economies of the earth . On the one hand it is our consumerism , technology and habits that drive the economic engine of the world ...and without that or any lessening of it , and the entire world feels the decline. Oversimplification I know , but on another plateau there would be far greater suffering without the technology and advancements we have introduced . Just our illicit drug consumption alone has empowered so many evil forces in the world. There can be some valuable lessons exchanged and brought to teach us (US) as well how to live with consuming less in the end , i would agree. Technology takes us not that far , yet. There are many things we can all learn from each other . The Israeli's technology for instance , & skill at management & engineering planning in many areas are actually such that they could be of great assistance to a large part the ME region and it's future, if there weren't the religious hatreds & animosities , and they could all grow past that and use the knowledge together God or the Universe has given them. Fear and hatred ....great enemies of man, X. (the world could live without coca-cola , hehe, but KO doesn't want that ! ) KO has taken a bit of a dive lately , hmmmm stockcharts.com[h,a]daclyyay[pb50!b200][vc60][iUc20!La12,26,9]&pref=G

To: epicure who wrote (6703)	2/8/2003 7:52:12 PM
From: Machaon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 25898

<< Iran chose the Mullahs. That was self determination. >> It is a shame that we can't treat countries like children, For instance, if your daughter wants to go out with a guy who has a long criminal record, sexually transmitted diseases, and sleeps with his mother, you can try to stop your daughter from making an obviously wrong decision. If backward people in Iran, like children, want Mullahs to further destroy their crawl towards civilization, we should be able to stop them. << What we see as "evil" and what an indigenous people might think are "evil" are often quite dissimilar. >> That is why so many of them starve to death, are tortured to death, are put into prison for decades, and are willing to commit suicide for 99 supposed virgins up in Heaven. But.... it is sooooo difficult to see who's definition of "evil" is correct. << Because our idea of "evil" is about what is good for us, the US of A, and not what is good for them. >> You couldn't be more wrong. Or, could you? We recklessly throw billions of foreign aid all over the globe, without any accountability. Albeit, our corporations use foreign labor, because it is cheaper, but that is just good business sense, not evil. Are some of our corporations corrupt, and mistreat employees, both here and abroad. Of course that happens. Look at Enron.