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To: NickSE who wrote (72610)2/9/2003 12:33:43 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
"Reason" Blog

Adlai'd Brains

Honorable people can differ on which points of Secretary of State Powell's U.N. address were persuasive, and how persuasive they were. But Adlai E. Stevenson III's invidious comparison between Powell's speech and his father's famous Cuban Missile Crisis showdown at the U.N. is one of the most opportunistic complaints I've seen in a long time. I had thought the main difference between the two speeches is that people are (rightfully) a little more skeptical of high-tech gee-whizzery now than they were back in old '62, but here's another interesting perspective, courtesy of a New Republic article from November 17, 1962: "Not only the nonaligned but many Westerners doubted (in private) whether any Soviet rockets really were in Cuba," Philip Ben wrote. "Mr. Stevenson's photos did nothing to convince them. They were convinced only by Khrushchev's admission."



To: NickSE who wrote (72610)2/9/2003 3:17:28 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
It will be fascinating to see how France and Germany manage to airlift and support thousands of troops in Iraq without US logistical support...

But I would state that such a "pre-emption" of a US invasion of Iraq by France and Germany will be voted down by the US in the UNSC (we have a veto too.. :0)

That would mean that their troops would be denied UN status and thus make them just as "illegitimate" as they claim US troops are.... That is, unless Saddam invites them in...

And such an invitation would place them in the embarrassing position of being seen as guarantors of Saddam's regime, while the US would invade from the south and capture oil fiels in that region to prevent the Republican Guard from blowing them up..

I do have to say that the French and Germans are making the game "interesting" and finally showing just how much of an interest they have in preserving Saddam (or at least their interests in the region).

Hawk