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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Just_Observing who wrote (6888)	2/9/2003 10:28:36 PM
From: coug	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 25898

Thanks for posting that link, Just Observing, You are a good observer. I believe it, because of my heritage, my ancestors that were so fair and objective and allow both sides to be heard. And we talked so much as a family unit, the extended family I mean, about the worldwide condition, the human condition.. BTW, my grandparents on my father's side immigrated from Finland and on my mother's side from Sweden.. Both of whom made the "top ten" I see, I am not surprised... I got my objectivity honestly.. We had stacks of papers and magazines always around the house.. And we talked about what was happening in the world.. I always remember, as a little kid, the print picture of JFK, my sweet Finnish grandmother had hung in her living room of her modest ranch home. And how she would prepare, with the families help, "care packages" of little essentials, soap, tooth paste, razors, etc.. we would send to Finland because they were so poor, BECAUSE they were paying off their "WAR DEBT" to the U.S.. The only country that DID so, as I understand it, because we are so honest as a group. AND WHY, BECAUSE THEY, the little PROUD but TOUGH COUNTRY OF FINLAND had the the courage to FIGHT and damn near DEFEAT THE RUSSIANS, Nobody else that I know of has done so lately.. So therefore they become part of the AXIS powers, for no other REASON.. BUT being the good citizens of the world they are, they accepted that judgement, rightly or wrongly, they paid off.. And those values and heritage REMAIN with me.. DON"T bother me, and I will not bother you... c

To: Just_Observing who wrote (6888)	2/10/2003 1:16:25 AM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 25898

The poor ranking of the United States (17th) is mainly because of the number of journalists arrested or imprisoned there. Arrests are often because they refuse to reveal their sources in court. Also, since the 11 September attacks, several journalists have been arrested for crossing security lines at some official buildings. The stupidity of using that sort of thing as reasons for de-ranking the US is so apparent it's not worth comment.