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To: zonder who wrote (3716)	2/10/2003 11:48:07 AM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 15987

As I noted, I am not in a position to do major archival research, for a fee, in the major American dailies, especially when I cannot even link you. I will see if I can get something for you, however, shortly. The Palestinians were on the verge of having their own state, during the Wye River Institute negotiations a few years ago. However, Clinton began pressing Barak for more concessions, and the next thing you know, Arafat rejected the package, and, not too long after, Intifada II started. Furthermore, it is the fault of the Arabs powers that so many have languished in refugee camps, instead of being taken into surrounding Arab territory. Third, even so, many Palestinians, until the last couple of decades, were educated and even attended University, and were making something of themselves, sometimes working in Israel or Jordan, sometimes through emigration to places like the United States. In high school, I had a couple of classmates who were Palestinian, for example (that was 30 years ago). I have met doctors in the Washington area who were Palestinian, and the priest who officiated at my grandmother's funeral Mass was a Palestinian Catholic. The two Intifada's interrupted this process, and led to dreadful disruptions in schooling and economic life in the occupied territories........

To: zonder who wrote (3716)	2/10/2003 1:01:11 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 15987

>>snipers will take advantage of the preoccupation of troops with rioting children, including teenagers, to take shots at troops. This is the first time I am hearing of this strategy. Could you summarize why you believe this is true? zonder, did you read this article I posted to ET? Message 18558537 it documents the PA's recruitment of "martyrs", including specifically child martyrs. I have read articles in the Israeli press documenting coordination between the Tanzim and rock-throwing children, where the children were given their orders about where to stand and where to throw the rocks, while the gun-wielding Tanzim took up positions in the rear of them. Who should be surprised at this? Everyone knew that the children might be killed if the Israelis started to fire, but shudaha is a "good thing", so that is okay. As for the rationale behind the strategy, that is not hard to find either. The intifada was always a battle with two fronts. One in the streets, and the other in the newspapers, Arab, European and American. Pictures of dead kids are a potent weapon in the newspapers. Pictures of rock-throwing kids against tanks are another potent weapon. Have you ever noticed how few pictures of Palestinians shooting guns or lobbing grenades make the papers? Stop to think about it. Are Palestinians with guns a rare feature in this combat? Not at all, right? So why do we see only the IDF shooting, but the Palestinians are pictured mostly as rock-throwers? Because the Palestinian reporting is controlled, and is done mostly by Palestinian stringers who openly support the Palestinian side, and consider their job to be fighting on the PR front. The PR front plays up Palestinian weakness and desperation, so pictures of armed Palestinians are to be avoided.