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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (72861)	2/10/2003 2:49:15 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Straw-man argument. There may be a tiny minority of megalomaniacs who aspire to that. For that matter, there are a few Christians who say they want to make the entire planet Christian. The rest of the world's major religions don't believe in Jihad or Crusades. There's one tiny difference, Jacob. Crusading Christians don't have an organized political following at the moment (this is not 1100). There is an organized political following behind jihad at the moment, usually called Islamism, and it's backing various Muslim vs. the other struggles with terrorism and violence. It's launching a war against America (cf. Khobar Towers, the Tanzinian and Kenyam embassies, the Cole, and Sept 11th), and Islamiscizing various nationalist struggles (cf. the Hamas and PIJ, Chechnya, Kashmir, Indonesia and the Phillipines). There just aren't any comparable religio-political violent movements among other religions, except to a much lesser extent among militant Hindus in India. There are certainly no armed and militant Christian groups raiding into Islamic terroritory and imposing the Cross by force. Instead, the opponents of Islamizm are mostly modern nation-states, a very different political construct. India, Israel, the US, Russia, Indonesia and the Phillipines are not crusading Christian or Jewish entities. They are modern states.

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (72861)	2/10/2003 2:50:34 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 281500

<But widespread popular Muslim support for Bin Laden's program will dissolve, if most Muslims stop feeling under siege, in countries that currently have Muslim-majority populations. They (and I mean the masses, not the zealots), will be satisfied with that. > Jacob, in Indonesia, there's no threat or siege of Moslems. They ARE the threat. You should check out what happened to East Timor since the Indonesians invaded to see what Moslems like to do to infidels [as if the Twin Towers destruction wasn't sufficient graphic description for all time]. The machete hackings were not as numerous as those in Rwanda, but for the individuals involved, they were as bad. The Bali attack was pure, vicious, religious aggression. Those involved were not under threat or siege. They were simply out to kill heaps of infidels. I've got my hands full with Christian superstitionists trying to rule the world. I don't need machete-toting Moslems to deal with as well. Mqurice

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (72861)	2/10/2003 2:52:23 PM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 281500

>>widespread popular Muslim support for Bin Laden's program will dissolve<< Ah so. Yet another case of Male Answer Syndrome.