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To: runes who wrote (67738)	2/11/2003 7:51:56 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Respond to of 70976

> That is morality - to live to one's own values. But ethics opposes forcing those values onto other nations. Absolutely no problems here > ...Ethically, we have no business doing any kind of direct interference with a stabile social system. Exactly! Hence my insistence on non-interference as the best course of action, 99.9% of the times. As I have pointed out, ethics is not just a measure for good conscience; it is what human beings have developed over very long period of times as the best decipline for their survival. So much so that some scientists argue it is part of our genetic fabric. So I think it is important to fallow it. > wishes and needs are frequently confused and cause great problems. I am reluctantly willing to agree with you on that paragraph. There are two problems with it. The first is that it makes us like an over controling parent who despite right intentions becomes the object of the kid's anger. The other way at least they don't have us to blame. Secondly, I am not so sure that we are qualified to decide what is best for another nation. Just the same, I am willing to agree with a planned withdrawl within say 5 years if during those 5 years we establish a regime that represents the majority of people. > I don't agree with "let nature take it's course". Especially not in the political arena which is a man-made artifice to start with. Ah, we have so much to discuss here. This is something that I have spent a good chunk of my life pondering about. I have decided not to pick this up in detail because it will get us too far from the current issues. But the short answer is that (a) politics is very much part of nature, for proof read about the social lives of gorrilas or other social creatures. (b) Having thought about it long and hard, I have come to the conclusion that the shortcomings of politics or even capitalist markets is directly due to their disconnect from the natural world and our natural instincts. all the best, ST [edit] about scam artists and robbers...having traveled in some of the poorest parts of the world, both cities and vilages, I have concluded that the number of people of truly violant and shady character is few and manageable. There is no need to wage war at the world for fear that losing control or power will harber our doom. There are more effective ways to prevent the related issues.