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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (14844)	2/12/2003 11:45:52 AM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

"Being a strict materialist and someone who claims to prize logic and science. I would think the kinds of statements you make should cause you to blush." I am not a strict materialist; and I don't know why a strict materialist would need to blush for making statements. ""The building blocks of the many "things" which are in the universe are tiny tiny particles which have movement......These facts have nothing to do with questions of ultimate origin." The facts I was referring to were the ones I mentioned in the sentence immediately preceding my statemnt, "these facts...", to wit: "Some things in the universe have personality, some things have fur, and some things have reflective surfaces. These facts have nothing to do with questions of ultimate origin" "Since we have been discussing ultimate origin; why aren't you posting relevant arguments" I have. I don't know that there is any ultimate origin. It seems illogical. Certainly, the old primitive conception of a Creator/God has outgrown its usefulness. If God WAS everything then God IS everything. Something could not be "created" outside of everything. I find it amusing when people talk of a God with no boundaries, but they are unable to conceive of existence with no boundaries! "Scientists can and do trace the effects in the universe back to an ultimate beginning" Whether or not one considers the present universe to begin with the big bang is irrelevant. Logically there could be an infinite number of infinite universes. As I said, if time is infinite then there is no beginning. If time is not infinite then there was nothing before time which would be able to create or to act. All acts must occur in space/time.