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To: carranza2 who wrote (3805)	2/12/2003 12:34:11 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 15987

C2, I worry powell was misled and may feel stung today. Anyone who reads bin ladens statement knows that there is no love lost between him and saddam and this is just a temporary marriage. Powell by saying it was more brings what he presented at the UN into question for some on the left. Something went wrong yesterday. It started when Powell had advance warning of a bin laden tape at al jazzeera and al jazeeera denied it. Perhaps he got an incorrect transcript either accidentally or on purpose. mike

To: carranza2 who wrote (3805)	2/12/2003 1:06:49 PM
From: zonder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15987

Falsity, however, can be proven. Post evidence, not opinions I guess you did not follow the conversation until this point. Take a look at this article: Message 18569330 Paraphrasing a bit: (1) Re Al-Qaeda camp: a satellite photo of a forlorn outpost, allegedly linked to Hussein and Al Qaeda and which Powell claims is in the business of producing chemical weapons. However: .....(a) The camp is in the US/UK controlled no-fly zone. Saddam has no control over the area. .....(b) Over the weekend, 20 foreign reporters finally got to visit the camp and found a dilapidated collection of shacks without indoor plumbing or the electrical capacity to produce the weapons in question. .....(c) Later it was revealed that US had this camp under surveillance for months and could have taken it out on one of many recent bombing runs (2) Re a British report that Powell referred to as a "fine paper ... which describes in exquisite detail Iraqi deception activities." .....(a) It turned out to be be largely plagiarized from a graduate student paper, grabbed off the Internet from an Israeli publication, that relied on 12-year-old data. observer.co.uk .....(b) It seems they were reduced to using this "intelligence report", because the real British Intelligence report on the subject says "no connection between AL-Qaeda and Iraq", as announced by BBC. "The classified document ... said there had been contact between the two in the past, but it assessed that any fledgling relationship foundered due to mistrust and incompatible ideologies," reported London's Independent newspaper. Post evidence, not opinions, that Powell purposefully presented false information to the UN. How am I supposed to know if he PURPOSEFULLY presented the false info or he was dumb enough to believe it himself??? (For the record, I don't think he is dumb. But of course I cannot post EVIDENCE that this is the case)