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To: Ish who wrote (3846)2/12/2003 6:39:13 PM
From: lorne  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 15987
 
Americans swamp
French Embassy
'It never stopped, it was crazy,'
said diplomat after 1,000 calls
February 12, 2003

France's resistance to U.S. policy on Iraq, capped off by its role in blocking U.S.-backed plans to bolster Turkish defenses against a possible Iraqi missile attack, is resulting in a massive outpouring of U.S. anger against France, evidenced by the 1,124 angry calls received by the French Embassy in Washington, D.C., in just one day.

Coming in the wake of Secretary of State Colin Powell's speech to the U.N. on Iraq, the embassy felt under siege, reports the Scotsman newspaper.

"It never stopped. It was crazy. Unbelievable," said one French diplomat.

Although the embassy's Nathalie Loiseau notes that some letters and e-mail are supportive of Paris' position, she admits in a Financial Times report that some "would like to boycott France and French products."

With some U.S. talk radio shows openly calling for repatriation of America's war dead, noted the Scotsman, the phrase "if it weren't for us you'd be speaking German" has become a popular refrain.

"The French attitude is self-defeating," says Gary Schmitt of the Project for a New American Century, said the report. "They are undermining the credibility of the U.N. and now throwing NATO into disarray. I don't know if they realize how they're also causing a split in Europe. If you total up all the things they are interested in, you find that they're making a hash of all of them."

Meanwhile, as WorldNetdaily reported this week, France was found to be more unpopular among Americans now than at any time in the past decade in a new Gallup poll. Unfavorable opinions of France have jumped 17 points in the past year while favorable opinions have dropped 20 points.

American attitudes toward Germany, another European power unwilling to support the U.S. on Iraq, also have become more negative, according to the annual Gallup Poll Social Series Update on World Affairs, conducted Feb. 3-6.

In its editorial yesterday the Washington Post argued that France and Germany now "behave as if they share the same over-riding goal as the Iraqi dictator: thwarting U.S. action even when it is supported by most other NATO and European nations."

Great Britain ranked at the top of the list of 26 nations with a +83 percent favorable rating, while Iraq rounded off the bottom with a -85 percent score. Iran and North Korea, the other two nations identified by President Bush as comprising the "axis of evil," joined Iraq at bottom of the list.

Bush 'disappointed'

The White House yesterday scoffed at Paris's offer to fortify U.N. weapons inspectors in Iraq after President Bush complained he was "disappointed" with France's refusal to cooperate with NATO.

The Bush administration's exasperation with Paris is affecting public perception, reported the Financial Times, noting as an example the New York Post's coverage of the international dispute. The paper ran a picture of WWII American soldiers' graves near Omaha Beach Monday, headlined: "They died for France but France has forgotten."

New York Post reporter Steve Dunleavy, depicted near the grave of a young American soldier, wrote: "The air is chilled, but I feel an unnatural glow of rage -- I want to kick the collective butts of France. These kids died to save the French from a tyrant named Adolf Hitler. And now, as more American kids are poised to fight and die to save the world from an equally vile tyrant, Saddam Hussein, where are the French? Hiding. Chickening out. Proclaiming, Vive les wimps!"

Presidential press secretary Ari Fleischer said yesterday that French President Jacques Chirac hadn't mentioned France's intention to block Turkey's request for NATO assistance during his meeting last week with Bush. He claimed Bush didn't feel exactly "blindsided," but rather "disappointed at the "setback" for both NATO and Turkey.

Clinton administration deputy national security adviser Jim Steinberg says anti-French feeling is increasing in the U.S., according to the Financial Times. Concerned that it could get worse, Steinberg added: "The next two weeks are going to have a profound impact on transatlantic relations. There is a consensus that whatever the U.S. has done wrong, it does not justify the way the French and the Germans are playing this."
worldnetdaily.com



To: Ish who wrote (3846)2/12/2003 7:13:54 PM
From: Thomas A Watson  Respond to of 15987
 
The tape, the facts, the speculation.

The source was algy tv. They in the past have been the source of all tapes of binnie, fake, real, whatever.

It's an algy blessed tape. algy says it is binnie and from their binnie source. So what is real and what is fake and does it matter.

It may be binnie, but that still does not prove he is alive.
It could be prerecorded. But one can conclude it is from binnie or his current boys.

So binnies terrorist boys do wish to work in concert with sadist even if binnie is now dead or alive.

If it's binnie and prerecorded, then binnies boys have wished to work with sadist for a long time. That's been an assertion of the US for a long time.

Why would binnies boys speak out now. Well not to speak would make it look like they are all wasted and on the defensive.

(1)In that binnie's boy's have not suggested the tape is false, then it's likely not false in presenting their current perspective.

The only way that (1) would be false is if binnie and all his boys are no more and all residual binnie boys work for the CIA.

Thus Iraq is more dangerous than binnie's boys as they still exist and want his stuff or they don't exist and thus by default Iraq is more dangerous. If binnies boys don't exist, then Iraq can create some binnie boys and that is most dangerous.

Make Iraq Ameirca's new home base for military presence over there.