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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (73418)2/12/2003 9:58:30 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 281500
 
Reality is very strange.


And getting stranger. Theoretical Physics is really going around the bend. The latest "Flavor of the Month" is called "The Variable Light Speed" Theory. It postulates that Light move much faster during the "Big Bang." Known as the "VLS" Theory, detractors refer to it as the "Very Silly Light speed" Theory.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (73418)2/12/2003 10:18:44 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Respond to of 281500
 
<It turns out that the universe is 13.7 billion years old, + or - 1%. >

Since a year is specifically how many times it takes us to get around the sun, or so many cycles of a vibrating atom, or the time for a photon to cross a hydrogen atom, or some such measurement, and those things are a function of the gravitational fields, it seems obvious that not only is time a malleable variable, but so is distance and so is the speed of light.

Even the part that's matter is just another form of wave function - the whole business is bewildering. Tossing a few Calabi Yau equations around and imagining superstrings and stuff seems problematic too.

It's a shame that we spend most of our time fighting, eating and chasing girl monkeys, like any common primate in a forest. The preparedness to kill other people because of some superstitious beliefs and testosterone poisoning is a heck of a way to live our lives, when there's obviously so much more to it than that.

That 380,000 years seems like a made up number to try to explain something to journalists which is not explainable in any intelligble way in a newspaper.

Mqurice



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (73418)2/13/2003 2:07:21 AM
From: D. Long  Respond to of 281500
 
Yeah, really neat stuff. :)

Here's the MAP website, if anyone wants to take a look:

map.gsfc.nasa.gov

Another neat thing about the MAP data, is that they can extrapolate the data backwards too, so they can look back to the Big Bang itself using their computer models. Very cool.

Derek