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To: tekboy who wrote (73620)2/13/2003 3:03:37 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 281500
 
<<...I think we're seeing three things come together--the dawning of an age of true unipolarity, an incredibly tactless and obnoxious US administration, and the denouement of a decade-long Iraq crisis...>>

tb: Interesting observations...Let us know what you learn in your meeting...;-)

-s2@stillhopingtoavoidwar.com



To: tekboy who wrote (73620)2/13/2003 3:05:01 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
an incredibly tactless and obnoxious US administration,

I really don't understand you on this one, Tek. You have the Europeans, who from day one have gone out of their way to insult us and our President, dealing with the best Secretary of State they will ever see, and treating him like shit.

They have tried to use their normal arrogant approach to stop what we need to do. When they can't get away with it, they double cross Powell, double cross NATO, and get petulant when we call them on it.

And we are the ones who are "incredibly tactless and obnoxious?" You had better check your premises.



To: tekboy who wrote (73620)2/13/2003 5:28:12 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 281500
 
Poll gloom for Blair on Iraq

A poll carried out for the BBC has underlined Tony Blair's view that he has a lot of persuading to do if he is to rally public support for his tough approach to Iraq.

Fewer than one out of every 10 Britons believe it would be right for the country to take part in a war against Iraq without the UN passing a new resolution in favour of it, the survey suggests.

And 45% of people polled said the UK should play no part in a war on Iraq - whatever the UN decides.

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Conservative voters are even less inclined to back the prime minister, the ICM poll of 1,000 people suggests - more then half of them say he would do anything US President George W Bush asks.

Three out of every five Britons think the UK and US Governments have failed to prove their case that Iraqi president Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction, the research indicates.

news.bbc.co.uk



To: tekboy who wrote (73620)2/13/2003 7:42:13 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
Zionism without the help of bayonets:

"Zionism in its spiritual sense is a lofty aspiration. By spiritual sense I mean they should want to realise the Jerusalem that is within. Zionism meaning reoccupation of Palestine has no attraction for me. I can understand the longing of a Jew to return to Palestine, and he can do so if he can without the help of bayonets, whether his own or those of Britain. In that event he would go to Palestine peacefully and in perfect friendliness with the Arabs. The real Zionism of which I have given you my meaning is the thing to strive for, long for and die for. Zion lies in one`s heart. It is the abode of God. The real Jerusalem is the spiritual Jerusalem. Thus he can realise this Zionism in any part of the world."

Gandhi, 1931

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