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To: LindyBill who wrote (73982)2/14/2003 5:18:28 PM
From: carranza2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I am sure the resolution Powell is circulating reads, "Iraq is in Material Breach of 1441." Period! That is a "Half Resolution" that gets Britain off the Hook, and allows the French and Germans to say, "We did not vote for the use of Force!" Once that issue is settled, we will liberate Iraq a few days later.

Maybe, but that's slicing the salami mighty thinly. It doesn't authorize the use of force but on the other hand it does use the right diplomatese....maybe. We'll see.



To: LindyBill who wrote (73982)2/14/2003 6:02:33 PM
From: Win Smith  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
U.S. Will Ask U.N. to State Hussein Has Not Disarmed nytimes.com

[ I'm a little confused about how anybody is supposed to miss what is "cleary the intent" here. ]

The Bush administration is drafting a United Nations Security Council resolution with Britain declaring that Saddam Hussein has failed to disarm, and must now face unspecified "consequences," senior administration officials said today.

The resolution, which they expect to present next week, is designed to counter efforts by France and Germany to give the search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq more heft and more time, an approach that administration officials insist would be futile. Senior officials describe the drafts of the resolution as a short restatement of key passages of Resolution 1441, passed unanimously in November.

It would conclude, one official said today, with "words to the effect that Saddam didn't avail himself of his final chance to disarm, and will now face the `serious consequences' we've been talking about." It makes no specific reference to military action, although that is clearly the intent. . . .



To: LindyBill who wrote (73982)2/14/2003 6:54:08 PM
From: kumar  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
"Iraq is in Material Breach of 1441." Period! That is a "Half Resolution"

Not in my mind - its a complete resolution. 1441 says material breach needs to be agreed on by UNSC. 1441 also says if theres material breach, serious consequences will follow.

So if UNSC agrees that material breach has occured in a 2nd resolution, nothing more is needed. What follows would be serious consequences as an outcome of 1441.