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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Art Bechhoefer who wrote (8646)	2/15/2003 6:59:56 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

Well, luckily there were russian equipment which could take the Afghanistan climate and heights, for the americans. But remembering the glory days of Pravda and Isvestija, and these days of ABC,NBC,etc, the four wonders of commercial news, additionally especially CNN and FOX, you have a point in your comparisons. Ilmarinen Funny thing, Pravda and Isvestija were actually more reliable in those days. The american contemporary productions even beats the best the Hitler administration could come up with. (nothing new, as true segration was so much stronger in USA)

To: Art Bechhoefer who wrote (8646)	2/15/2003 9:06:56 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 25898

Afghanistan was the Soviet's Viet Nam. It cost them dearly, and they found out, regardless of the value of U.S. support for the Taliban, that they couldn't win. I think the SAM's we supplied the Afghan rebels were the biggest reason. The climate and terrain do not lend themselves to conventional battles, either in Afghanistan or Iraq, and certainly the Iraqis are not going to be stupid enough to engage American forces in the wide open desert. That's what the Iraqis did last time. Maybe they'll have learned from that experience and that'll help them. Maybe not. No one knows what will happen. I do recall a lot of forecasts of doom appearing in the media prior to both Gulf War I and Afghanistan. I think whatever WMD's Saddam has been able to retain and/or develop are the biggest things to worry about. Much more than climate or terrain or where the Iraqi army chooses to fight.