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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Sojourner Smith who wrote (9184)2/17/2003 6:01:04 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 25898
 
Re: I thought it crazy today the comment from OBL, that the goal is to create greater Israel all the way to Bagdad.

Except that Bin laden is dead and so can't comment anymore, I don't think it crazy at all to say that Judeofascists' ultimate goal is Greater Israel, that is, Israel's sphere of influence all the way to Baghdad...

As for "I personally favor a state be created today including East Jerusalem and most of the settlements be given up by Israel.
Many Jews agree with that."


Tell that to Netanyahu and his Likud freaks who won't even hear of a Palestinian state, much less carving up Jerusalem.

Re: However, Arafat wants right to return to many parts of Israel and Hamas states clearly state they want destruction of Israel. I know first hand, most Muslims want Israel destroyed.

LOL... Keep that diversionary bullshit for the American booboisie --I know better. The so-called right of return for Palestinian refugees has always been a moot open to debate. No, the real obstacle to any settlement is the division of Jerusalem and the prospect of a demographic victory/defeat in the holy city. Indeed, Judeofascists perfectly realize that were they to give up just ONE square inch of Jerusalem then, in, say, 20 years from now, the Arab Jerusalem will be a sprawling megalopolis with one million Muslim inhabitants vs a shrivelling Jewish ghetto of 100,000 souls (West Jerusalem)... In short, Jerusalem as whole will be an Arab city.

Now, you slyly claim that "most Muslims want Israel destroyed". If anything, the Saudi initiative at the Arab League's Beirut Summit last spring debunked that bogey... But just tell us what you mean exactly by "destruction". For arch-Zionists, the mere downsizing of Israel to its 1967 precincts is indeed the "destruction of Israel", for religious freaks the mere slice-up of Jerusalem is tantamount to the destruction of Israel, whereas for the most lunatic fringe the mere presence of over one million Arab Israelis living --and breeding-- in Israel is a stealth destruction of Israel as a pristine Jewish homeland.

The truth, however, is that any destruction of Israel would run contrary to Islam's higher interest. Indeed, the actual tug of war is not between Judaism and Islam but between Christianity and Islam --one billion Christians vs one billion Muslims... The 15 million Jews being a (expendable?) pawn in the hands of the former. If Islam comes to terms with Israel then such a breakthrough will show the "historic superiority" of Islam over Christianity because whatever Christians will claim, at the end of the day, it's been up to the Arabs to make up for the Jews' plight... At the end of the day, the Jews were granted a state of their own not in Europe, not in Russia, not in Patagonia, not even in kikey-whipped America... No, at the end of the day, the Jews were allowed to rest in Islam.

Gus