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To: Alighieri who wrote (161348)2/17/2003 6:23:05 PM
From: hmaly  Respond to of 1575617
 
Al Re..To have to answer such an email is indicative of how well the fear mongering of this administration is working on otherwise rational people. The industrial and technical capacity of Germany compared to Iraq. 1939 power scene compared to today. Think about it.

HMM, Did Hitler have WMD. Did Hitler have 18 semi trucks producing chemical weapons. Did Hitler support a lot of terrorist groups who blow up civilians and themselves in the name of God. Think about it.

I believe that those who oppose war in Iraq are not at all motivated by fear of Saddam or OBL.

Really. You have said many times you fear a terrorist backlash. It is important why Chirac wants to delay forcing Saddam to comply or face war.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101030224-423466,00.html

Why do you think fallout from a war would be so much graver than Tony Blair and George Bush seem to? I simply don't analyze the situation as they do. Among the negative fallout would be inevitably a strong reaction from Arab and Islamic public opinion. It may not be justified, and it may be, but it's a fact. A war of this kind cannot help giving a big lift to terrorism. It would create a large number of little bin Ladens. Muslims and Christians have a lot to say to one another, but war isn't going to facilitate that dialogue. I'm against the clash of civilizations; that plays into the hands of extremists. There is a problem—the probable possession of weapons of mass destruction by an uncontrollable country, Iraq. The international community is right to be disturbed by this situation, and it's right in having decided Iraq should be disarmed. The inspections began, and naturally it is a long and difficult job. We have to give the inspectors time to do it. And probably—and this is France's view—we have to reinforce their capacities, especially those of aerial surveillance. For the moment, nothing allows us to say inspections don't work.

Isn't France ducking its military responsibilities to its oldest ally? France is not a pacifist country. We currently have more troops in the Balkans than the Americans. France is obviously not anti-American. It's a true friend of the United States and always has been. It is not France's role to support dictatorial regimes in Iraq or anywhere else. Nor do we have any differences over the goal of eliminating Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. For that matter, if Saddam Hussein would only vanish, it would without a doubt be the biggest favor he could do for his people and for the world. But we think this goal can be reached without starting a war.


You will note that Chirac says he is afraid of little OBL in the middle east. You will also note that he says in both paragraphs, he favors disarming Saddam.

A banner of the American president with a Hitler mustache is a distinction no other American president has earned in my lifetime. An American flag with a swastika painted on it in a London demonstration. My God.

And because some kooks can paint a mustache on GW, that means what to you. Do you really think we should set our foreign policy according to what a few demonstrators do. My ex probably drew worse doodles of me, and we were married. I got over it, almost unscathed as you can tell.

I do believe that they are motivated by a sense that this war is completely unnecessary, by a sense this administration would demolish global order if unopposed, and by an intense dislike not for the political affiliation of the people in the WH, but for what they are perceived to be capable of...and with good reason.

Gee, if GW had done all that, why did the EU back GW's position 15 to 0 today


E.U. Warns Iraq It Faces 'Last Chance'



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By BARRY RENFREW
The Associated Press
Monday, February 17, 2003; 4:15 PM

European leaders united Monday behind a strongly worded declaration affirming solidarity with the United States and warning Saddam Hussein that Iraq faces one "last chance" to disarm peacefully.

"Baghdad should have no illusions. ... The Iraqi regime alone will be responsible for the consequences if it continues to flout the will of the international community," 15 European Union leaders said in a joint declaration.

The leaders gave strong backing for the U.S. and British demand for swift action to disarm Iraq, giving the American military buildup in the Persian Gulf credit for forcing Saddam to work with U.N. weapons inspectors.

© 2003 The Associated Press


Notice that last paragraph. Are they lying, or are you.