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To: Elsewhere who wrote (75030)	2/17/2003 9:53:24 PM
From: Rascal	Respond to of 281500

I agree. The administration should immediately realize we are still the most powerful country. We have shown our committment. Now we are going to do it this way:........ The world is dying to get the old America back. They want to love us again. Rascal@ carpediem.com

To: Elsewhere who wrote (75030)	2/17/2003 10:54:09 PM
From: paul_philp	Respond to of 281500

So far there has only been a division in words, not in deeds. All 15 members of the UN Security Council have passed UNSCR 1441. NATO has agreed to prepare planning for the defense of Turkey. And the EU, incl. France and Germany, has passed a common declaration today containing the sentence "Force should be used only as a last resort." I am waiting for the first pundit to recognize that this means Schroeder won't exclude an agreement to a second Iraq resolution anymore. Very good points. The EU draft statement also acknowledges that any progress towards disarmament is due to the military buildup. Bush and the Americans might be annoying but they have been effective - so far. Paul

To: Elsewhere who wrote (75030)	2/17/2003 11:52:58 PM
From: BCherry168	Respond to of 281500

Jochen, if you think what France and Germany have done these past few months will be easily forgiven, you are tragically mistaken. We in the United States have risked a great deal, and invested a great deal of our treasure in defending Germany and France for the last 50 years. What we are seeing is abject betrayal from the two countries, and Belgium as well. This will not be forgiven. Count on it. "Ugly, but sometimes such a negotiation strategy works."

To: Elsewhere who wrote (75030)	2/18/2003 12:47:05 AM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 281500

Saudis Warn of Fundamentalism - in America Saudis warn US over Iraq war Monday, 17 February, 2003, 22:23 GMT The BBC Saudi Arabia has warned the United States against a possible war against Iraq in an exclusive interview with the BBC. Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal has said that any unilateral military action by the US would appear as an "act of aggression". "Independent action in this, we don't believe is good for the United States," he told the BBC's world affairs editor John Simpson at a meeting of the Arab League foreign ministers in Cairo. "It would encourage people to think... that what they're doing is a war of aggression rather than a war for the implementation of the United Nations resolutions." But if the attack came through the United Nations Security Council, it would not be considered an aggression, he said. "So we are ardently... urging the United States to continue to work with the United Nations... and not to create an act of individual aggression, of individually taking charge of the duties of the Security Council." Regime change Regime change would lead to the destruction of Iraq, and would threaten to destabilise the entire Middle East region, Prince Saud said. "If change of regime comes with the destruction of Iraq, then you are solving one problem and creating five more problems. "That is the consideration that we have to make, because we are living in the region. We will suffer the consequences of any military action." Regime change can only be a possibility if it is done "indigenously", he said. "There has never been in the history of the world a country in which a regime change happened at the bayonets of guns that has led to stability." The worry is rising fundamentalism in America and the West - not in the Middle East, he said. "Our worry is the new emerging fundamentalism in the United States and in the West. Fundamentalism in our region is on the wane. There, it's in the ascendancy. That's the threat." news.bbc.co.uk