To: tejek who wrote (161465 ) 2/18/2003 2:05:29 PM From: hmaly Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1574055 Ted Re... I don't think Europe was necessarily looking to "brandish its power"; however, a militaristic, aggressive US may force into rethinking its position and where it wants to go from here. Isn't that really what the outcry over Kyoto is. A realization that the US wasn't going to cut back their economy, under the guise of global warming, and that the EU would have to find a different way to throttle the US so they can compete. The liberals realized their economies couldn't compete, and they were going the route of the dodo bird, if they couldn't contain the US. Militaries are aggressive, that is life. Businesses are aggressive, that is life. While the EU may throttle the US in aggression in intervention, their real goal, to save their liberal agendas, is probably doomed as their real competition is China, India, etc. The US in the eighties took the measures it took to beat back the competition from Japan, and became stronger because of it. Europe has to do the same. don't think you see how threatening the US has become to the rest of the world. Well, I sure don't see it. All the US did, while this so called bullying was going on is create most of the greatest economies of the world; including the no 1,US 2, Japan 3, Germany, 11,SK. There are more, but the point is, what on earth is so threatening; we enabled their economic engines, not disabled them,and protected them from communism, so what is their problem. Further more, I can see no reason why Europe wouldn't want us to enable the middle east into the same lofty positions Europe has. Why on earth, would a developed, democratized, friendly middle east threaten them. Are they afraid of the competition. You use the word threaten, like Gw wants to invade Paris next. The truth is, we went out of our way to develop europe into this huge, friendly economic super power; we can do the same for the middle east, and I can see no reason why anyone would think that that is a bad thing, considering what a wasteland the middle east is now; and considering the consequences to Europes wealth should OBL use the oil weapon. Their way of life may be endangered, but it isn't just the US threatening it. People talk about the US threatening world order, but that means leaving the arab nations in a perpetual state of dictatorships, monarchies, starvation and despair, and with terrorist trying to blow everybody up. Why on earth are we trying to preserve that.