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To: Condor who wrote (75300)2/18/2003 5:51:27 PM
From: Poet  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hi Condor,

I thought this was interesting:
Zen poet's voice of dissent heard by anti-war literati

seattlepi.nwsource.com



To: Condor who wrote (75300)2/18/2003 5:52:49 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Spend a billion dollars (hence saving several billion) mount a campaign of subversive underpinning of Saddam ( special ops and opposition factions) and get him out (perhaps even assassinate).

It's been tried several times.
It has failed.
Every single expert on Iraq and Iraqi expat says it has no chance of success, Saddam is too ruthless.
The only faint chance of success a coup has at the moment is due to 200,000 Allied troops assembling at the borders.

I think you have the wax buildup, friend Condor.



To: Condor who wrote (75300)2/18/2003 7:47:46 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Slow, steady low profile

I have to conclude that this is just the "Stall" answer of someone who must not want us to do anything. I say this because we have 11 years of trying it and it does not work.



To: Condor who wrote (75300)2/18/2003 8:18:10 PM
From: Ilaine  Respond to of 281500
 
I'll tell you what I'd like to see. I'd like to see the US and the Coalition of the Willing secure the oil fields, which, it is said, Saddam intends to set on fire, and the dams and rivers, which, it is said, Saddam intends to blow so that southern Iraq is flooded. And I'd like them to clean out the WMD caches, and knock out the Scuds, and blow up their airfields, and pretty much leave the rest of Iraq alone for a bit, and wait and see what happens.

Surround Baghdad and Basra and the other large cities, and tell the people inside that they can leave if they want to -- civilians, of course. Military can leave if they surrender, but they'd need to be kept prisoner until it was all over.

This might mean letting women, children, and old men out, and keeping men of fighting age prisoner until they get everything sorted out.

I really have a feeling that this is what they intend to do.

We probably don't have long to wait and see if I am right.

BTW, I don't feel like searching for the stats (SI search is frotched again), but someone posted them in the past couple of days. The death toll of Iraqis during Gulf War I was extremely low. This war should have an even lower casualty rate.