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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Brumar89 who wrote (10169)	2/19/2003 8:18:58 AM
From: BubbaFred	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

After reading so many posts in this thread (assuming you read some of them) and still cannot get the gist of the messages of the pros and cons of a war in Iraq?

To: Brumar89 who wrote (10169)	2/19/2003 8:49:52 AM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

>>>So many people overlooking the likes of Saddam.<<< Brumar, I think it's time you put that argument to bed. There's not a single poster here on this thread "overlooking" Saddam. It'd be my bet every one of us would like to see him brought before a war crime tribunal. Why hasn't the administration done this, or at least indicted him in absentia. Don't Bush and Blair wanna give the Iraqi people some inspiration to overthrow him? I think you have to ask: Why isn't this being done? And then consider: Well, maybe there is something else at play here. What I find terribly ironic here is the Bush Administration had been considering replacing Saddam with a man Denmark now wants to indict for war crimes. This is the guy that was their man until they decided to have Americna General Tommy Franks run things. news.bbc.co.uk

To: Brumar89 who wrote (10169)	2/19/2003 10:39:43 AM
From: zonder	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 25898

Something very strange is going on. Very true. We are used to fearing fringe groups, failed states, terrorism, even anarchy and communism. It is very strange to be fearing America, trying to uphold international law against the country that used to be its most fervent supporter. There was a guy named Bin Ladin, and a terrorist organization named Al-Qaeda, remember? To the best of our knowledge, they are out there plotting another 9/11. But no. We are fiddling about invading Iraq because the US stopped being the benevolent giant leading the rest of the world by example, and started acting like an oil junkie, with its leaders desperate to invade Iraq so it might look like they are doing something against terrorism. And getting so emotional over the US for trying to remove or disarm him. (1) Not emotional. Disappointed and frustrated. (2) Not for "trying to remove or disarm" but lying (Al-Qaeda links, "proofs" later denied, etc), bullying ("You are with us or against us. Worse yet, you are irrelevant"), complete disregard for international law (undermining ICC, denying authority of the UN Sec. Council). Also BTW what percentage or Iraqis feel the way you do, do you know by any chance? Do I look like the Iraqi Census Bureau from where you sit? Why this sudden interest in percentages anyway? The last I looked, you were calling "misinformed" the over-80% people in European countries refusing engagement in US invasion of Iraq without UN backing. My understanding from personal conversations and following Arab media is that most will be happy to see Saddam go. However the only thing they hate more than Saddam is a US invasion, a resulting puppet government, and parcelling of their natural resources.