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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: LPS5 who wrote (10549)2/19/2003 6:52:43 PM
From: Just_Observing  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 25898
 
To me, it has to do with 12 years of Clinton-sanctioned noncompliance

The sanctions worked - no one was attacked. And I don't remember the 12 years of Clinton. Your exaggeration and ignorance are already showing.

the added perk that one future source of 9/11s may be mitigated

Just one source out of how many? How many Muslims are there in the world? At least one billion. And how many will not hate us after our attack on Iraq?

Even our CIA and the British MI6 warn that the "war" on Iraq will substantially increase the chances of new attacks.

We will have to sharply increase our Security and Military expenses to deal with this threat.

We export at least 1 trillion dollars of goods and services each year. Not only will the 1 billion Muslims boycott our products, all those who oppose this attack are liable to do so. That number is high as 80% in many developed countries such as Germany, Italy, France, Netherlands, Belgium, and Spain among others. So we are liable to lose valuable markets.

Already in 2002, China attracted more investment than America. China and Europe can and will be more than willing to replace our products on the world market.

So we have a double whammy - more spending coupled with less trade. A sure way to shoot our comatose economy in its head.

Apart from economic and political considerations, there is matter of simple decency. Iraq is a poor starving country with a GDP of $10 billion while we are the greatest superpower in the history of the world with a GDP of $10,000 billion. Our attack will result in 500,000 Iraqi casualties and 1,000,000 Iraqi refugees (UN estimates).

Common decency dictates that we try to avoid casualties, especially of the innocent. If inspections are keeping Saddam in a box, there can be no compelling case for this level of casualties.

Dubya's decision to use unilateral force will be one of the most shameful decisions in human history - and also one of the costliest. Only an idiot can support the use of unilateral force - and an immoral idiot at that. Perhaps, a hallucinatory, immoral idiot. One who imagined that Clinton was a three-term president.



To: LPS5 who wrote (10549)2/19/2003 6:53:19 PM
From: PartyTime  Respond to of 25898
 
>>>PartyTime: HG Wells once wrote, "in the country of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."

LPS5: ROFL! More ersatz intellectualism...beautiful.<<<

My comment stands: "HG Wells once wrote, "in the country of the blind, the one-eyed man is king." He did write that. Here 'tis!

fantasticfiction.co.uk

"In the Country of the Blind the One-Eyed Man is King."

"In the Country of the Blind the One-Eyed Man is King."

And very civilly he gave them greeting. He talked to them
and used his eyes.

"Where does he come from, brother Pedro?" asked one.

"Down out of the rocks."

"Over the mountains I come," said Nunez, "out of the country
beyond there--where men can see. From near Bogota--where
there are a hundred thousands of people, and where the city
passes out of sight."

"Sight?" muttered Pedro. "Sight?"

"He comes," said the second blind man, "out of the rocks."<<<

LPS5, you don't see the parallel?

I'll deal with the rest of your points later. Right now, now that you're impresed, I'm pressed for time.

PS: Remind me if I don't soon get back to you--I'm up to 515 inbox messages. Got any idea what's the record--?



To: LPS5 who wrote (10549)2/19/2003 7:03:39 PM
From: PartyTime  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 25898
 
LPS5--Never mind, my response just got easy. I just read Just Observing's post number 10559. I'll take the cop out and stand behind his response and move on to other matters.

I'll close, however, by commenting that it is only a bully who is enraptured in a twisted and perhaps even uncertain ego who'd want to senselessly bomb innocent people on a premise of speculation and convenience only.

Why don't you take off your war clown patterned suit and put one on that has peace signs. You'll smile better and people will like more--even the one billion moslems!