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To: TimF who wrote (161622)2/19/2003 8:48:56 PM
From: i-node  Respond to of 1575083
 
The next question becomes what is the relevance of that fact

I think we agree. I would have a difficult time concluding that someone who killed 100,000 is much less evil than someone who killed 6,000,000. At that level, the degree of evil is surely indistinguishable...



To: TimF who wrote (161622)2/19/2003 10:12:00 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1575083
 
I don't think Ted was saying he wasn't evil, but rather that he was less evil.

Of course I'm not sure I would say killing less people makes you less evil. After all he had less power available to him with which to kill.


I am curious how you and others determine evil. I guess I've never talked to someone before about it. I don't determine someone's evilness based solely on what they've done. To be honest, I have to feel their evilness as well......and I experience shadings of evil depending on the person. For an example, I get that Saddam is evil but his evilness is minor compared to someone like OBL whose evilness I read as being off the charts.

I guess the reason I see their evil as different is because Saddams and OBL's evilness stems from different places. I sense Saddam's comes from fear and greed while OBL's comes from hatred. Do you experience anything like that?

And for me, there are people who I think are evil who haven't done a bad thing in the eyes of the law.

Still in terms of horrible evil menances of modern times Saddam would rank below Hitler and Stalin. The next question becomes what is the relevance of that fact. I doubt Ted would say that anyone short of Hitler or Stalin should be left alone.

No, I've never thought Saddam should be left alone. What I would have liked to have seen is all the major players in the world unite and over time, clean up one country after another using the threat of force. It could have been a brilliant strategy and once you were successful with the first couple of tyrants, probably the rest could have been knocked over with a feather. It would have had the added bonus of forcing out some of al Qaeda from their hiding places.

Now its gotten so twisted, I am not sure how much can be salvaged. I think its a lost opportunity.

ted