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To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (4269)2/19/2003 10:56:56 PM
From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12465
 
Re: 2/19/03 - CBS Marketwatch: Who's giving you financial advice? Your neighbor? Cabbie? A model on the Internet?

CHUCK JAFFE

Who's giving you financial advice?
Your neighbor? Cabbie? A model on the Internet?

By Chuck Jaffe, CBS MarketWatch.com
Last Update: 12:02 AM ET Feb. 19, 2003

BOSTON (CBS.MW) -- Moet is a model, an aspiring actress and movie-maker and an Internet entrepreneur.

At her Web site, moet.net, she eyes you coyly while clad in a bikini and astride a horse, or gives you a come-hither glance while firmly grasping a wooden railing.

So if you go to her site and say you're looking to see her "market tips," chances are you're really just seeking a clever ruse to throw off a spouse or a boss who wonders what it is that you're looking at.

And yet Moet does indeed offer stock tips. Those tips are worth looking at, not for the cheap-yet-unavoidable thrill of seeing Moet's pictures but for what her stock tips represent to the supposedly older and wiser investors who are struggling to get through the bear market.

Moet's stock selections come from a friend of hers, someone she nicknamed "Wallstreetio," who she described in an interview last week as "a recluse and savant ... a genius when it comes to the markets." His stock picks beat the market last year, she said, although they still were down by 16 percent.

And Moet herself is an avid investor (her current favorite is Crown Cork and Seal (CCK: news, chart, profile), even though it's not on Wallstreetio's list), who can talk genuinely and earnestly about a company's growth potential and tell you why you should expect certain issues to benefit from the Bush tax plan.

It sounds laughable. A supermodel wannabe picking stocks with some unnamed market-topping hermit whose track record is impossible to verify.

And yet just three years ago, instead of laughing at the absurdity of the situation, a lot of investors would have been saying "Ooh, she likes Cisco Systems," and using her picks to further justify their own investment selections.

That's not as absurd as it sounds. Entire Web sites survived on chat rooms filled with stock jockeys just a few years ago. In 1999, you could go to a business lunch and get stock tips from everyone you met, starting with the cabbie and including the waiter, not to mention your dining partner.

The bear market ended all that. The stock tip -- outside of chat rooms, investment newsletters, talk radio and money television -- seems to have become something of an endangered species.

It's not that tips went away entirely, but they changed. For starters, much of the common advice became geared toward safety, like the woman at my table on the commuter boat last week who volunteered that she stopped throwing her money into the market once she knew she could lock in a gain of just above 2 percent in a savings account. Her strong suggestion was to ride out the downturn on the sidelines, advice that sounded good to at least one of our fellow travelers.

On the surface, that's a lot different than the "We think MO could double" kind of advice Moet is dispensing.

At the same time, it has equal potential to do harm.

Even if the bearish woman on the boat has some ability to discern just the right time to plow into stocks again, the person pondering her advice may have no clue of when the market will have bottomed. She might stay on the sidelines indefinitely, until something convinces her the time is right again.

"I don't think most people would take advice from a young model on a Web site," says Richard Geist, editor of the Strategic Investing newsletter and head of the Congress on the Psychology of Investing. "But they're still taking advice from someone they meet at a cocktail party, or someone they know who sounds smart.

"It's easy to sort out advice that comes from an outrageous source, but much harder to discern who really knows something when you're getting that advice from people who look like you and who sound like they have figured it out while you are still struggling to make sense of things."

With that in mind, most experts suggest that any sort of off-handed investment advice be treated with caution, as nothing more than a jumping-off point to further research.

"When you get a tip, start by getting to know what you can about the person giving it to you," says Marc Beauchamp, executive director of the North American Securities Administrators Association. "You want to know about their track record, about their experience, about what they did to come up with their recommendation, and then you want to make sure that what they are saying really applies to someone in your situation."

Beauchamp noted that many of the investment scams occurring today use fear as part of the sales pitch, much more than the greedy make-as-much-as-you-can spiels of the 1990s. The fact that the security is being talked about, rather than go-go returns doesn't lessen the homework an investor should do before proceeding.

"I think it's pretty obvious that you don't just see a pretty face, have her offer you stock tips and go out and buy things," says Beauchamp. "But when you don't have that obvious feeling that something might not be right, that doesn't mean you can put your guard down. ... When it comes to the tips people get today, investors need to remember they can lose just as much money trying to be safe as they can trying to find tomorrow's big winner."

Chuck Jaffe writes about mutual funds for CBS MarketWatch and dozens of newspapers throughout the United States.

© 1997-2003 MarketWatch.com, Inc. All rights reserved.

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To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (4269)11/18/2004 8:09:21 PM
From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell  Respond to of 12465
 
Re: 11/18/04 - [Mishkoff] TaubmanSucks: The Movie!

TaubmanSucks: The Movie!

No, the subject line is not some kind of bizarre joke: my taubmansucks.com ordeal has been made into a movie! It's a short (six-minute) documentary that was created earlier this year for a project that was sponsored by several organizations in Seattle. I'll tell you a little more about the background of the film in a minute, but first....

The reason I'm writing to you now is because "TaubmanSucks: The Movie" will have its television premiere next week! It'll appear on KCTS, the PBS station in Seattle, as part of a series called "About Us," an independent-filmmaker showcase. This particular episode is entitled "New Voices 2004"; it's an hour-long compilation of nine short films, one of which, of course, stars (ahem) me. (I was the second choice, they wanted Brad Pitt to play me, but he wasn't available.) I don't know in what order the films will be shown, you'll have to watch (or record) them all to make sure that you don't miss "TaubmanSucks: The Movie" (it won't be a chore, I've seen them, they're all interesting).

"New Voices 2004" is scheduled to appear on KCTS as follows:

* Thursday 11/25 8PM
* Sunday 11/28 1PM
* Monday 11/29 3AM

If you're not within viewing distance of KCTS, perhaps you can bug your local PBS station, maybe they can get it from KCTS and broadcast it in Your Town.

"TaubmanSucks: The Movie" was created by filmmaker Theo Lipfert, who has won awards for his previous documentary, "The Displacement Map." (See SingingPictures.com for more info.) Original music for the film was created by composer Stefan Hakenberg (StefanHakenberg.com/ctl/ctlrgh/pcs/60/60.html), who also scored Theo's previous film. The project for which the film was created was associated with several Seattle organizations, including The Warren Report (TheWarrenReport.com), 911 Media Arts (911media.org/projects/new-voices-update-0204.html), and the Seattle Art Museum (www.SeattleArtMuseum.org).

"TaubmanSucks: The Movie" was first screened at the Seattle Art Museum in June. I attended the premiere, and I can safely say that it was easily the best movie that's ever been made about me. (I'll have to revisit that statement if anyone else ever makes a movie about me, but I'm betting that the statement will stand.) In September, it was featured at the One Reel Film Festival (OneReel.org) at Bumbershoot (Bumbershoot.com) in Seattle. Earlier this month, the movie was screened at the Northwest Film & Video Festival (www.nwFilm.org/31nwfest/fri5.html) in Portland (Oregon), where it was selected for the Best of the Northwest Film & Video Festival Tour, which will circulate throughout the northwest US next year. And I've just learned that it'll be featured at the Digital Video Film Festival (dvExpo.com/filmfest) in LA in a couple of weeks.

Theo's actively trying to place the movie at other film festivals -- so if you have any contacts whom you think might be useful in this effort, let me know, I'll pass your info along to Theo.

And finally: If you'd like me to let you know when "TaubmanSucks: The Movie" might be showing in your area, please let me know. So as not to bug people on this list (who, after all, may have been interested only in the lawsuit, and not the movie), I'll maintain a separate mailing list of those of you who want to keep up to date on when "TaubmanSucks: The Movie" might be appearing At A Theater Near You.

Hank Mishkoff



To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (4269)10/12/2009 2:10:08 PM
From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell1 Recommendation  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 12465
 
I ran across an interesting blog about what appears to be a bully billion dollar insurance company using all its muscle to destroy a once valued employee who decided to go elsewhere. The company is called Federated Mutual Insurance of Owatonna, MN. The wife of the accused employee is the one, on her own, maintaining the blog, called "Fed Up With Federated": fedupwithfederated.blogspot.com . Apparently Federated has tried to get the blog shut down but to no avail. This reminds me of the Taubmansucks.com lawsuit.

In a nutshell, about two years ago, in October 2007, Chris Boudreau accepted a promotion with Federated that would require he move to Owatonna. Sadly, a week later, he and his wife Prinna lost their nine month old baby, Sophia, to SIDS. To compound the tragedy, in the month prior to being cleared by the autopsy results, when they should have been grieving, the family had to endure unfounded accusations from the local police they had killed their baby with a blow to the head. This began a string of other traumatic family events through which the couple sold their house and moved into temporary housing in Owatonna to facilitate looking for a new one.

A couple of months later, Prinna found out she was pregnant but medical complications were so severe she was forced to move into her parents' basement in Twin Cities for round-the-clock care while Chris commuted to Owatonna three days a week. Stress at work, the long commute, and a need to be closer to Prinna's parents caused Chris to make the tough decision to leave Federated where he had been for the last decade.

Chris gave his two weeks notice and prepared to tie up loose ends. Suddenly, he was told he was fired, escorted from the building, and a restraining order filed against him asking he turn over all Federated information in his possession or else “the entire force of Federated would reign down upon him.” Chris did so no questions asked and, as a result, was charged with stealing company secrets and arrested.

In August of 2008, ten armed and uniformed officers descended upon Prinna's parent's house and confiscated virtually all their electronics and storage devices, including Prinna's mother's work computer, video tapes, cameras and lenses-- taking with them all memories of Sophia. Federated then had Chris' new office raided and items confiscated, and petitioned the insurance commissioner to revoke his license pending the results of a hearing, thus leaving him jobless and unable to pursue his career.

Federated claims their investigation shows that Chris was in possession of all sorts of trade secrets on his computer. Yet, despite the very public claims of theft, Federated has yet to publicly document one single such instance. This might be another "he-said she-said" case except for the fact this is not the first time Federated has done this to an employee. In Blacksten v. Federated they tried the same malicious unproven bully tactics and ultimately lost, resulting in a malicious prosecution lawsuit the appellate court let proceed. Federated was quoted as saying "the most important thing was that it was time to play offense," and to make Blacksten sweat... "We don't care if we lose [the case against Blacksten]. We have more money than Blacksten and we are going to show him." oscn.net I'm told the "joke" around town is right out of the movie The Firm: "You work for Federated or you don't work."

Living in an area where pretty much everyone either works for Federated or who knows someone who does, the Boudreaus, who are now broke, are having all sorts of problems trying to counter the Federated lawyers. The press has been of little value as well, likely being careful not to upset a powerful local institution. So Prinna is left to her own devices, maintaining a small blog mostly just to keep her sanity while Federated has been making life for her family a living hell while trying to put her husband in jail for 45 (yes 45) years-- based on allegations they've refused to detail, let alone prove.

- Jeff



To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (4269)9/16/2014 8:18:26 PM
From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12465
 
Act 135: It's All About Doug

He lost the case. His client probably paid him hundreds of thousands of dollars, they followed his advice, and now they'll forever be known as The Company That Sucks. (The case is featured in the Intellectual Property sections of law school textbooks.) His firm will always be remembered as a bunch of overbearing thugs, the kind of attorneys that give lawyers everywhere a bad name.

But that's all OK with Doug Sprinkle because, he says, he's been able to exploit the unsavory reputation he earned as result of the case, and he's turned it into lots of money. (I'm guessing that he didn't use this unexpected windfall to reimburse the Taubman Company for the fees he charged them to expose them to such universal ridicule.)

I know all this, by the way, because that's what he told me. More than seven years after my last entry on this website, and more than ten years after he lost the case, Doug sent me this email to make sure I knew how much he's prospered as direct result of the way I portrayed him on these pages.

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From: Douglas Sprinkle
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 6:51 PM
Subject: Thanks

Hi mishkoff,

I want to thank you for your website. I do not have enough fingers to count the numbers of clients that I have gotten over the last ten years or so who said in essence "The attorney who can piss off someone that much is the attorney that I want!". I do hope it cost you a lot of money to maintain the site. I know that I made a lot of money from your site. Thanks again!!

I would have written sooner, but I am now about to enter retirement and I didn't want to stop the client referrals.

Don't bother to respond to this email. I will almost certainly ignore it.

Doug Sprinkle
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I have to admit that I was pleased to learn that Doug's been stewing about his poor showing for the last ten years. (At least that's the only reason I can think of that would explain why he felt compelled to send me that silly note after all this time.) And I wish I could say that I chuckled and ignored him. But instead, I sent him this note by return email.

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To: Douglas Sprinkle
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: Thanks

When I post your pathetic note on my site, perhaps you'll get even more clients. If being a lying asshole is good for your business, then I'm happy to do your advertising for you.

It costs me $12/year to maintain the site, well worth it.

Have a good retirement, I think it's great that you won't be inflicting your venom on other hapless victims.

As always, it was a pleasure to hear from you.
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Not a great note, I know. In my defense (and defense is, after all, why I'm here) I should mention that I was late for a dinner date and I wanted to fire off a response before I left. And I guess that was literally the best I could do on short notice,

Paul Levy, the Public Citizen attorney who won the case, was surprised to learn that his nemesis had resurfaced. He wrote about it on the Consumer Law & Policy Blog. Interesting perspective, I think you'll enjoy reading Paul's article.

I keep thinking that nothing more could happen that relates to this case, but events keep proving me wrong. So instead of saying that I'm signing off for good, let me just say: Bye for now, see you next time!

taubmansucks.com

- Jeff