To: zonder who wrote (4425 ) 2/20/2003 12:30:11 PM From: Hawkmoon Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15987 In post-war Germany, there were huge camps, emancipated Jews with tattoos. Mass graves. It is hardly comparable. Have you seen them personally?? No... Did the Allies have every reason to inflate the numbers in order to make the Nazis look as bad as possible (while distracting from the miserable treatment we gave German POWs on the continent? Yes... All you and I have seen are the photos.. any of which could have been retouched by the Allies.. And the stories could all be fabricated, n'est pas?? After all, NO ONE could be THAT brutal, right?? And need I remind you that the US and British talent for deception was such that they had utterly convinced the Nazi High Command that the Allies would invade the Pas De Calais, with Patton in charge (Operation Fortitude)?? Even after landing at Normandy, Hitler refused to believe Normandy was anything more than a feint, and thus refused to release the 15th Army from the Pas De Calais.. troops that could have made a decisive difference in the success of the Allied invasion.. And for decades, the US/UK maintained the secret that they had been reading Enigma communications and knew practically all German intentions (as well as Japanese)... When this information was finally revealed, it caused historians to almost completely revise their understanding of WWII strategies and tactics. So what makes you think that the US/UK didn't create a holocaust deception?? After all, aren't the US and UK governments controlled by Jews?? What greater way to invite sympathy and support for the creation of a Jewish homeland.. right??? And which was the first nation to use concentrations camps for civilian relocation?? (The British during the Boer war).. This is the argument that the neo-nazis, white supremists and many Islamic fundamentalists will cite... They refute the current history, just as you refute the fact that Arafat and Fatah control, or heavily influence, almost every financial and political activity that occurs within the PA. So yes.. Zonder.. THEY ARE COMPARABLE... And anyone, including a devil's advocate like myself, can make such an argument in complete denial of the visible evidence just as you have with regard to the documents captured by the Israelis from Arafat.. Hawk