To: Maurice Winn who wrote (127122 ) 2/22/2003 9:17:07 PM From: straight life Respond to of 152472 Veteran Broker Tells All... dailyspeculations.com by way of:dailyspeculations.com ...Here are the unedited thoughts of Tim Melvin, a respected Baltimore stockbroker with decades of experience. Read—and beware! – The Daily Speculator ‘No commission’ or ‘no direct commission to you’ is one of the oldest and most effective lines in the brokerage business. Retail investors are suckers for commission-free deals. This technique shows up in the peddling of Nasdaq stocks and secondary preferred stocks, one of the more frequent showings in today’s markets. All too often, these preferred stocks are bought at the offer and then marked up as a principal trade—perfectly legal, but less than open. The investor is paying the bid/ask spread plus a bump that doesn’t show on the confirmation. He feels he got a cost-free deal; in reality he paid a big of 5% to 6%.” “Nasdaq offerings, particularly smaller less liquid names, are also an area of huge abuse. A firm can take down a block at the bid on these things and put it back out at the offer—a spread often as high as 10%--without showing a commission. The 5% rule, remember applies only to the amount above the offer. One of the first firms I ever worked for, nameless for obvious reasons, used to post every day at 4:15 something called the overnight list. Literally a list of names the over-the-counter was stuck with that could be peddled with “No cost to you , doctor.” The same guy who would argue all day about agency trading costs would blindly pay a spiff of 5% or more to win these special deals. Needless to say we got paid extra for moving the trash. The invention of B class shares of mutual funds was done specifically to allow brokers to compete with no loads by offering shares with no up-front costs. The 5% to 7% redemption fees and excessive 12(b)1 charges rarely make it into the conversation. Same with closed-end funds, sold as commission-free IPOs that include underwriting costs up to 7%. Registered secondary offerings of listed stocks also carry fees that generally reduce the price the next day. The costs may be paid by the issuer, but it is out of the investor’s proceeds. I haven't tested it in years, but shorting into a secondary and the covering with shares purchased in the offering used to be the closest thing to a free lunch on the street. There is always a cost. The things that are peddled as “no cost” or “no direct cost” usually carry the highest commissions to the broker. Someone is paying that fee. As most firms are far from benevolent institutions, it is usually the client paying. Fees subtract from performance. But it is still one of the most effective sales (con) techniques used by the Street. * * * Interesting Big Con Unfolding Now Interesting big con unfolding now with elements of duplicity, the gaining of confidence, bait and switch and third world obscurity. Company A lends foreign company B money so company B can then buy products back from company A which B sells in its foreign market. Company B puts up its stock as collateral on the loan. Company A gets boost in its share price because it has booked a large sale to B ( not disclosing to investors that it actually financed the sales itself) So company A is already on somewhat shakey ground, and is further blinded by huge potential profits from inside gov contracts company B is able to broker. Stage is set for company B to shift the loaned funds and revenues from any sales to private accounts. Company B goes nearly bankrupt, but owners have moved loaned cash from A to private accounts. Country B has an antiquated, possibly corrupt legal system to protect them. Plus as added protection much of the industry collapses, justifying their bankruptcy against any legal challenges. Nice scam. Duncan Coker A is Motorola and Nokia B is The Uzan family of Turkey Loan is $1.5 billion