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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (11582)	2/21/2003 6:42:35 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 25898

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "Why are you so hung up on the numbers?", she asks with an edge of fear in her voice. Duh! Gee, it was just MONDAY that you peaceniks were SCREAMING about how successful that march had been and how SO MANY people were opposed. So now your count has been cut by 75%. Duh! Many people are against the war whether or not they attended the rally. Know something? There are a GREAT MANY people who are FOR straightening this problem out who never will show up at any rally anywhere. Mostly they don't go in for mass f**kfests. They call Congresscritters, they talk to neighbors, they send emails, they make calls, but they don't go to demonstrations. A lot of them are too busy keeping their lives and the country running for that or other political activities, unlike the leftwing welfare mothers who populate your marches. Interesting how suddenly the numbers don't matter any more when they've been cut to a quarter of what they were. Hypocrite.

To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (11582)	2/21/2003 10:40:14 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

The march was organized so that when you got to the end of it- you ran off into a side street, that then looped around right by the BART entrance/exit. I left at 2pm, and as I left, the stairways at Bart were full of people still arriving with signs. So people were coming in all day for the event, as other people were leaving. I think that aerial number might give the number of people in that location of that time- but people were everywhere, and they were coming and going all day- so I suspect the total numbers were quite impressive- of course that isn't what the aerial numbers are giving you. They are only giving you one little snap shot of the thing. People weren't just in that small Market/civic center locale. And they certainly couldn't count the people streaming onto BART as soon as they finished the march. After all, we're underground waiting for BART- and it was really full at all the stations. However we want to revise the numbers for marches, it was the biggest march I've ever seen in SF. Absolute numbers, who knows? Relatively- it was really really big. That's what matters to people. And people who don't need to find reasons to dismiss the marches, know this was a significant event. So I wouldn't worry about the people on SI. Who cares? The people who were influenced by the marches aren't on SI on political threads, with their minds already made up. You've just got to ignore both sides of the choir- your own, and the other guys; it's the folks that haven't been converted, whose opinions are up for grabs, that matter.