To: Berry Picker who wrote (34363 ) 2/23/2003 1:19:07 AM From: 2MAR$ Respond to of 39621 hmmm...you can't lump~sum human experience like that . In the sum total of human experience of life on earth , we know now to be well in the many 1000's of yrs before Christ , some glimmers of perception and intuition into the mystery of it , was shining thru always. Even back to the first cave painters . It would be impossible to say that "these" were wicked, and those were bad , but perhaps a new "kingdom" idea was apppropriate . But the idea was not unique to any one scripture. Certainly the campaigns of those kingdoms against one another were brutal and should have been condemned. Rome was certainly ready for some "conversion" and that was a turning point , though I don;t know really if Christianity made it better . There was much wisdom as well as iniquity there present. The first encounters of Jesus' calling was in the desert you'll remember. A personal thing with his Creator. Then it begins, finding his calling , his own illumination. Then to go on to help others with their own perhaps. The "devil" and demon stuff is pretty much pure fantasy , someone later was taking great literary license with that , for easier consumption and shock value. They often did this with scriptures everywhere . Jesus was experiencing this "Great Experience", and was trying to convey what it "illuminated" and what was eternal. It (our own psyches) had been approached on that level before, just different language and place and time. It all fits into a mosaic , or what the Hindus refer to as the Universal "Net of Gems". Very old stuff that , far older than the Bible, but the same essence . People are just people you know ....everywhere. But "Life" itself ? It is always a "Great Experience".