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To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (29115)2/23/2003 2:39:58 AM
From: energyplay  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Thanks for the quick reply.

The service fee is very small, essentially insignificant to this discussion.

Fannie is not a source of funds like the 1975 bank, but mostly a pass thru .
To get the money to buy the mortgages, Fannie borrowed money by selling bonds. Fannie used this money to buy the mortgage package. So Fannie has debt.

Home owner has debt X - took out loan
Fannie has debt X - sold bonds to buy loan

Fannie's bonds are bought by somebody - the investor who supplies money to this whole chain. Could be Japanese, a hedge fund borrowing Yen at 1%, or a bank with deposits.

The debt gets recycled - something that did not happen much in the 1930-1950s when these statistics originated. There is no addtitional money created (that only happens at he origination) but the nominal debt (and a corresponding asset) now exist multiple times.

The way this statistic is measured, it can't handle double entry bookeeping - it just counts debt.
There was a better explaination in Barron's about 2 weeks ago, along with a chart showing the rapid growth of this (nominal) debt.



To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (29115)2/24/2003 1:32:33 AM
From: smolejv@gmx.net  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
>>Structured Finance allows recycling of debt, not accumulation of debt, or compounding of debt<<

what about concentration of debt in GSEs?

"Take a load off, Fanny
Take a load for free
Take a load off, Fanny
And you put the load right on me"

courtesy of the Band

DJ

PS:

actually the fight is still going on about
the interpretation - alternative

"Take a load of Fanny
Take a load for free ..."