To: lurqer who wrote (23699 ) 2/23/2003 9:40:43 PM From: HG Respond to of 104184 <<<Problem solved just by the way you looked at things.>>> Isn't that true with real life too...? I think our machines are a crude imitation of ourselves. I did ALGOL, PASCAL, FORTRAN for my undergrad...and it was so long ago that i don't remember anything. <<<There are some very subtle ways in which language controls thought. This goes for human languages as well, as anyone who has ever tried translating knows.>>> Agree. I read a few books on Philosophy of Languages last year. I was blown away with how much our language determines and controls our thought process. Two books on my reading list are : amazon.com and amazon.com <<<Some ideas either can't be (or are very difficult to be) expressed in some other languages>>>. Being quadro lingual, I can attest to that. Its impossible to translate the emotions and sentiments from one language to another. Probably because the second language may not have had any room for those emotions and didn't have relevant expressions for the same. I guess thats true for our computers as well, there is usually only a few languages that suit the application to the T. <<<Having learned several languages from an early age, when conversing with each other, they would automatically choose the language most appropriate for the topic.>>> LOL! That is so true. My daughter knows she is in big trouble if I call her using Hindi. And if i ever lapse into Kashmiri, my whole family hides in their respective rooms, regardless of the fact that none of them understands it. <g> <<<Moreover, upon occasion, they would choose a polyglot mixture, because no one language would suffice. Fascinating to listen to them.>>> Yep. I do that all the time. <<<Given that language is so powerful, and given that language is one's first major learning experience, one's first "tongue" has a significant effect upon the way one's brain works. From my experience with computer languages, I had already realized this. Hence, it was with some amusement, that I read of the research of a Japanese gentleman trying to reproduce American research on the bicameral brain. He was totally unsuccessful. Unable to explain his results, he then tried his experiments on Americans of Japanese descent. Then his results jived. He concluded that the mother tongue had so profoundly affected the “wiring”, that which half of the brain was used for a particular task was altered.>>> I did a course from Stanford last semester on Philosophy of Mind. Humans get hard wired with age and experience. And since age and experience is driven by culture and communications, well.....his research proved it.