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To: Oblomov who wrote (29214)	2/26/2003 3:44:32 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi Oblo, <our standards of courage are woefully low these days> Too right! We have heroes who did things like dialled 111 [our equivalent of 911] or did some trivial thing when somebody was in trouble. Which is not to say there are not plenty of courageous people around, it's just that the media love to use hyperbole and make news out of anything. Fortunately, great courage isn't needed all that often. When trivial things are given the badge of "courage", and "hero", it demeans the truly courageous and heroic. We run out of words. Similarly, when a couple of dead people is a catastrophe, cataclysm, disaster, etc. What word will we use if a haemorraghic virus wipes out half of humanity? Problematic? Annoying? Disruptive? AIDS might be trivial by comparison. Genocide in Jenin will be a joke. Even the Black Death of Europe etc would be minor in total numbers killed and maybe even in proportion - they largely lived rural lives so infection propagation would have been more difficult than nowadays, with 747s, movie theatres, megalopolis population concentrations, in 100 storey buildings, crowded subways, and traditions of kissing instead of bowing from a distance. Mqurice

To: Oblomov who wrote (29214)	2/26/2003 5:12:48 AM
From: LLCF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

<What was courageous about it? He advanced a set of opinions, and that's courageous? LOL... our standards of courage are woefully low these days. > Certainly advancing a set of opinions can take lot's of courage. Certain people "advancing opinion" around Adolf Hitler's time would certainly take courage no? IMO courage is not necessarily something to be read about in books of war, but something to be strived for daily if one truly looks within and is honest with ones self. What has changed 'these days' is that folks are so tainted by what they perceived as 'important' by multi-media, etc. that they don't look on their own actions or even LIFE as important as what's on the news or some history book. Every moment can be an opportunity for courageousness: * Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear ~Mark Twain * The Hero is no braver than the ordinary man, but he is braver five minutes longer. ~Ralph Waldo Emerson * We must build dikes of courage to hold back the floods of fear. ~Martin Luther King, Jr. * To see what is right, and not to do it, is want of courage. ~Confucius DAK