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To: greenspirit who wrote (78061)	2/27/2003 12:46:47 AM
From: paul_philp	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

This is going to be a big event in human history if we do it right. A free democratic Iraq could change as much in the middle east, as Germany changed in Europe. Michael, It is a big event in human history either way. If the nightmare scenario happens: - Shiites and Sunnis start a civil war - Turkey invades and takes the northern oil fields - Iran invades from the south - Saddam torches oil wells and the US is bogged down for a long time, the hit to American prestige and power will be enormous and may destabalize the world. The reason why everyone's passions are so high is that the stakes are very high. Paul

To: greenspirit who wrote (78061)	2/27/2003 1:44:02 AM
From: Jacob Snyder	Respond to of 281500

<This is going to be a big event in human history> There is always a tendency to romanticize, and make an appeal to universal values, in the runup to a war. It's heart-rending to read all the hopeful nonsense written and spoken just before and at the beginning of WWI. "War to End All War." To stop the Rape of Belgium. To Defend Civilization From the Hun. War For Democracy. Many of the slogans are identical, or very close, to what is heard today. Just substitute "Kurd" for "Belgium", and "Saddam" for "Kaiser". History will remember Iraq 2, the same way it remembers a thousand other wars where a big nation bullied a little nation. They won't even remember our excuses, because it's the same excuse used endlessly: "it's for their own good, and we know best what's good for them". Which is exactly what the President said today.