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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Mark Konrad who wrote (13590)	2/27/2003 10:19:46 AM
From: Just_Observing	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

"Saddam killed 5000 Kurds in the town of Halabja on 17 March 1988?" Thank you Perhaps, you are suffering from selective reading syndrome. You ignored everything that showed our role in creating Saddam. Now you want to attack him and cause, perhaps, 500,000 casualties many of them innocent civilians. During the last Gulf war, we targeted civilian targets such as water treatment plants and power generation facilities. Since you are so partial to the word "genocide", you may want to read about the aftermath of the Gulf war and what our sanctions have done for the people of Iraq: "What is needed is investment in water treatment and distribution, electric power for food processing, storage and refrigeration, education and agriculture." His successor, Hans Von Sponeck, calculates that the Oil for Food Programme allows $100 (£63) for each person to live on for a year. This figure also has to help pay for the entire society's infrastructure and essential services, such as power and water. "It is simply not possible to live on such an amount," Mr Von Sponeck told me. "Set that pittance against the lack of clean water, the fact that electricity fails for up to 22 hours a day, and the majority of sick people cannot afford treatment, and the sheer trauma of trying to get from day to day, and you have a glimpse of the nightmare. And make no mistake, this is deliberate. I have not in the past wanted to use the word genocide, but now it is unavoidable." The cost in lives is staggering. A study by the United Nations Children's Fund (Unicef) found that between 1991 and 1998, there were 500,000 deaths above the anticipated rate among Iraqi children under five years of age. This, on average, is 5,200 preventable under-five deaths per month. Hans Von Sponeck said, "Some 167 Iraqi children are dying every day." Denis Halliday said, "If you include adults, the figure is now almost certainly well over a million." A melancholia shrouds people. I felt it at Baghdad's evening auctions, where intimate possessions are sold to buy food and medicines. Television sets are common. A woman with two infants watched their pushchairs go for pennies. A man who had collected doves since he was 15 came with his last bird; the cage would go next." zmag.org

To: Mark Konrad who wrote (13590)	2/27/2003 11:24:29 AM
From: Ed Huang	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

Sorry, Hypocrisy won't work here! ">>Saddam killed 5000 Kurds in the town of Halabja on 17 March 1988?" Thank you. Amnesty International, the Red Cross, and numerous other organizations confirm the atrocities this man has committed. Since the UN prohibited our ousting of him in '91, perhaps it's now time to act without the UN--MK--<< Taking about Amnesty International, the Red Cross, eh? What about Israel who's the one behind the war invading Iraq? Just a few reports among thousands on the issue: guardian.co.uk n9s.co.uk sis.gov.eg Nobody in the world including the majority of Iraqi people invite Bush and Sharon to "liberate Iraq" or wage the war for the "World peace". Propaganda based on Hypocrisy doesn't work anymore. Many clever Pro-war Zionists started to shift the reason for the Iraq war to "Oil", why don't you do the same or your tactic would be pretty much outdated. P.S. reasons for the war may continue to change, so you'd better keep up with the situation. Regards.