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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: epicure who wrote (13725)	2/27/2003 3:50:18 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

But you don't have any evidence that he poses a danger to the US. That's a wee problem. There are lots of guys who aren't "nice"- the US doesn't have the cash or the will to go after them. Patently incorrect. One example. Hamas has offices in Baghdad. Hamas is a terror organzation. This is a danger to us all....

To: epicure who wrote (13725)	2/27/2003 4:39:22 PM
From: Patricia Trinchero	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

Well said ( or written ).eom

To: epicure who wrote (13725)	2/28/2003 12:48:18 AM
From: Mark Konrad	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

No "evidence that he [Saddam] poses a danger to the US." Are you sure you want to be a nightclub comic? I'll accept that YOU don't believe he's dangerous in spite of the invasions, genocide, weapons violations, support of terrorists, etc., ad nauseum. Which takes priority for you: the best interests of the US, international law, or international opinions? You mention all three in the same breath as if they usually run in accord...which they almost never do. I agree with you that "we need all the help we can get to track down a world wide network of terrorists." Therefore we don't need those who would hinder us in such efforts. And those who actively support, arm, fund, train or harbor terrorists would be anathema. Sound policy, imo. I had the opportunity earlier this evening to listen to Alistair Cooke describing arguments before Parliament in the mid-late 1930's regarding the League of Nations "collective security" and the containment of Adolph Hitler. The jargon of appeasement was virtually identical to what is frequently posted on this thread, other threads and countless "letters to the editor" worldwide. Millions of Britons and the majority of Parliament signed a "peace" declaration with no conditions...they would do anything to stop Hitler from re-arming and expanding EXCEPT fight him. The French were particularly adamant about continuing to negotiate...and negotiated themselves almost out of existence. Only half of the invading Nazi troops had even an extra round of ammunition...Hitler knew the French didn't have the morale to fight. No honor among thugs, Stalin was also betrayed in his "non-aggression" pact with Hitler (though that didn't help Poland much). What's the cash equivalent of 40+ million dead in WWII? Will we have to learn a terrible history lesson all over again with even more horrible weapons? I certainly hope not. No, it's not a laughing matter, it's not about "bad" or "nice" or being a "terrible leader." It's about what a proven mass-murdering, war-mongering, genocidal, brutal dictator like Saddam is likely to do to if appeasement and phony negotiations continue as they have for 12 years. Is there any point where you would view him as a threat? Do you think he'd use a nuke, clean or dirty, if he had one? Are you willing to wait and see? What line in the sand would he have to cross to cause you to rethink your position? To ANYONE on this thread: What, if anything, would have to happen to cause you to consider Saddam a threat significant enough to warrant the use of force to disarm him and/or remove him from power? Anyone? It's not a trick question but it is a serious question. Speak up! "sic"...nothing to do with spelling. "Used in written text to indicate a surprising quotation is not a mistake and is to be read as it stands." (American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language) I took the "lesson" comment as a joke. Good night--MK--