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To: Elsewhere who wrote (78289)	2/27/2003 10:36:32 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (7) \| Respond to of 281500

This Berman piece, Jochen, is fascinating. I go hot and cold on his writing, but this one is among his best. Definitely recommended. Thanks for posting it.

To: Elsewhere who wrote (78289)	2/28/2003 11:25:18 AM
From: MSI	Respond to of 281500

Good piece by Berman. The one thing he completely misses is the extent that the evil perpetrated by illiberal forces was fomented by unaccountables in the US gov't. The usual dismissal of these billions of dollars and covert ops as "conspiracy theorizing" wastes time, too, but is probably the reason Berman bypasses this most critical piece of the puzzle. After all, there is nothing Lincolnesque about fomenting foreign wars, then fighting them, just to maintain domestic power. And it makes the distinction between Hobbsian and Kantian moot to the point of being comical. "Follow the money" has been done on the Civil War, but not on our current malaise, and is the key. Where we had men of eloquent stature then, we have only intelligent and corrupt mendacity today. There is nothing heroic about policies which are based on "megadeaths", rather than the illusory high motives Berman diligently looks for.