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To: Bill Harmond who wrote (153810)2/28/2003 4:25:25 PM
From: GST  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 164684
 
It is about Israel, oil and the projection of US military power into the middle east.



To: Bill Harmond who wrote (153810)3/1/2003 6:23:16 PM
From: craig crawford  Respond to of 164684
 
>> Oh. If it's all about Palestine why is Iraq a prority? <<

william, what the hell is the matter with you? surely you're not this ignorant. did working with all those jews at abc television in new york and los angeles really corrupt your ability to think for yourself? as long as you continue to read the la times, ny times, wash post, weekly standard, and other jewish rags you will allow manipulative jews to do your thinking for you.

informed individuals know how much israel wants to emasculate and eventually conquer iraq. informed individuals understand how it is in israel's interests to cause enmity between the united states and the arab world. informed individuals understand how pre-emptive wars on terror conducted by the united states gives israel the cover to engage in its own pre-emptive wars against its arab neighbors. if the united states claims the moral authority to invade a sovereign nation 6,000 miles away that poses no overt threat to our security, then how can we deny israel the right to pre-emptively invade its neighbors right next door in its own war on terrorism?

israel had everything to gain from 9/11 and this war against iraq.

do you recall what former israeli prime minister netanyahu said immediately following the september eleventh attacks? he said, "it is very good for us".



To: Bill Harmond who wrote (153810)3/1/2003 6:32:56 PM
From: craig crawford  Respond to of 164684
 
here is a reference for the quote:

Justice, Not Revenge, Is Christian Spirit
americanfreepress.net

Christ taught that vengeance was the way of the wicked. A noted Jewish journalist provides some insight into the recent clarion calls for doling out swift and violent revenge on all “rogue” Arab countries for the terror attacks of Sept. 11.

By Israel Shamir
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The very essence of Christ’s Gospel was the rejection of revenge. That was the great difference between the church and the synagogue, these two sisters born 2,000 years ago. This difference is built in, it is the inherent most prominent feature of the gap between the two faiths: while Christians are called to pray for their enemies, Jews dream of vengeance. In the intended ideological confusion of last century, Christians are taught to think that the Jews wait for Messiah who is Christ. Christianity teaches that He came and will come again, while Judaism considers the Messiah did not come yet, that is all the difference according to the teaching of Judeo-Christianity. But reality is vastly different: Christ came to save, while Messiah comes to take revenge. It was proven by the brilliant Israeli scholar, Prof. Israel Jacob Yuval of Hebrew University in his new book, Two Nations In Your Womb
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Prof. Yuval quotes many ancient Jewish texts proving this point. “In the End of the days (when the Messiah comes) God will destroy, kill and exterminate all the nations but the sons of Israel,” written in the Sefer Nitzahon Yashan by a German Jew in the 13th century
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Not in vain, immediately after Wall Street was hit by kamikaze, Bibi Netanyahu said “it is very good for us.” Not in vain, Ariel Sharon tried to compare Palestinians to Osama bin Laden. Not in vain, Israelis demand destruction of Baghdad and Tehran, of Korea and Sudan, of everybody who is not taking orders from Tel Aviv or Washington. A mystic would not call it “manipulation,” but would accept for its face value the arrival of Messiah of Vengeance in the unlikely figure of George W. Bush. The Messiah of Vengeance has actually a different name in Christian theology. He is called Antichrist.
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Just one minute before we declare Bush as the Antichrist and/or Messiah, there is one circumstance that calls for investigation. We know now of some inside trading in insurance and airline shares that imply a previous knowledge of the forthcoming attack. We know of some advance warnings in the Jewish-owned investment banking system. I cannot imagine a Muslim terrorist who would try and fit the schedule of the Jewish High Holidays. Even less, I could imagine the apocalyptic Antichrist and his Jewish cabalist advisers buying futures on the stock exchange
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We Jews know it better than anybody. A brilliant American Jewish journalist, John Sack noticed it in his Eye for Eye, a chilling book about horrible revenge exacted by Jews on German civilians after WWII. This book tells of tortures, “extra-judicial killings,” mass poison and other horrors. You are not likely to get this book, as the Jewish establishment succeeded to suppress it and keep it out of bookshops.

Not surprisingly, Israel promoted vengeance into its daily policy. Its attacks on Palestinians were called peulot tagmul, the acts of vengeance. One of these acts was perpetrated by the Prime Minister Ariel Sharon on Oct. 14, 1953, when he and his soldiers murdered some 60 peasants—women and children—in the village of Qibya. The invasion of Lebanon in 1982 with its 20,000 murdered Lebanese and Palestinians, Christians and Muslims, was an act of revenge for the attempt to assassinate the Israeli ambassador in London.

During the last intifada, every act of Israeli terror is called “retribution” or “retaliation” by Israelis and by American Jewish-owned media
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A grandson of Trier Rabbi, who grew in the church, Karl Marx actually prophesied in the 1840s that America will become a Jewish state, and will embrace the Jewish ideology of greed and alienation. It explains successes of Jews: it is just natural that in the Jewish state, Jews succeed more.

This explanation allows us to answer the question we posted previously, does America support Israel because of the Jewish lobby or because of the “true interest of American corporations.” The answer is, the Jewish lobby is a superfluous body supportive of the Israeli right-wing, while America as a whole is a grander Jewish state with interests outside the Middle East as well. This presumption explains away a lot of queries. It explains incredible 99 percent vote for support of Israel. It explains endless Holocaust museums, Holocaust studies and Holocaust films. An offense to the Jewish community is not considered a form of racism, as ordinary racism is tolerated with great ease, especially if it is directed towards Arabs or blacks. It is treated as a lese majesté. In the years of Jewish ascendancy in the Soviet Union, 1917-1937, people were shot for an anti-Jewish remark.