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To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (365017)3/3/2003 4:03:50 PM
From: Steve Dietrich  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
<<Sure enough, much later we see Saul being commanded by God Himself to attack an utterly destroy Amalek>>

So God tells Moses he will do it himself. And by that he means Saul will do it?

<This was no general command to murder people simply because they believe other things>>

There are plenty of those too. Like Moses' genocidal campaign against Midian, and the previously mentioned order to exterminate the Seven Nations of Caanan (who were infidels).

And then there's Deuteronomy 13:6-8:

If thy brother, the son of thy mother. Or thy son, or thy daughter, or thy wife of thy bosom. Or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, let us go and serve other Gods which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; (7) namely, of the Gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth unto the other end of the earth (8) thou shalt not consent unto him, nor harken unto him; neither shalt thou conceal him (9) but thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. (10) and thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.

<<That He waited to do it is His own business.>>

If you really think exterminating an entire race of people for something their ancestors allegedly did, let's say, 400 years earlier is moral, well that's your business i guess.

Personally, the idea that there is such a thing as an evil race of people that needs to be destroyed is about the most immoral concept i can imagine.

<< It is a sure sign of an opponent's utter defeat when he suddenly and completely abandons the issue at hand to run to some other wholly unrelated issue he fancies is a weakness in his adversary.>>

Well, i did offer it as an aside in a separate post.

<<Well by now you should see you are very much mistaken.>>

Not at all. The ambush is only described in Deuteronomy, not Exodus. In Exodus Gods says he will deal with Amalek. In Deuteronomy God says "you" will deal with Amalek, for all time.

And of course Deuteronomy wasn't discovered until after Saul did his deed.

<<You now ought to fall to your knees in repentance for being so friggin' ignorant and arrogant in your ignorance before the God Who made you.>>

Do you get a lot of converts this way?

Steve