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To: JohnM who wrote (78873)	3/1/2003 10:53:58 PM
From: D. Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I would be happy to argue you are wrong if you gave me some illustrations of what you have in mind. If you are talking about my criticism of the Bush folk for their failure to appreciate soft power, diplomacy, etc., that's not form as opposed to content. That's form as content. I'm taking you off ignore for this John. I'm not going to plow through the bazillion FADG posts looking for specific examples, but I'm sure Nadine will agree with me in spades on this. You have a tendency to dismiss what is not worded in sufficiently passive voice, or isn't from the "proper" sources, or (quite hilariously) isn't properly parenthetically notated. Form over content. Not any more than any other large organization and, most likely, a great deal less. Academics are more akin, as I've argued here in the past, to institutionally based entrepeneurs, organizing their work on their own, answering to their own (disciplanary) norms, than simply creatures of an organization. So similarity-difference. I've worked for quite large organizations John (MCI-WorldCom big enough?), but they don't compare to academic departments in inertia, risk-aversion, and group thinking. While in college I worked in the Dean of Professional Studies office, Student Affairs, the office of the Chairperson (lol) of the department of Sociology and Social Welfare; I've participated in professional archaeological field work; I have several friends who muddled through into Academics while I flew the coop because it was for the birds. I don't pull this stuff out my ass, John. Derek

To: JohnM who wrote (78873)	3/2/2003 11:34:11 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Not any more than any other large organization and, most likely, a great deal less. Academics are more akin, as I've argued here in the past, to institutionally based entrepeneurs, organizing their work on their own, answering to their own (disciplanary) norms, than simply creatures of an organization. So similarity-difference. "institutionally based entrepeneurs" is a contradiction in terms, John. A real entrepeneur has a great deal of money and time tied up in the business, and he can go broke brutally fast. A tenured professor has an almost totally secury salary. If he fails, how does he 'go broke'? How does a failing department 'go broke'? The feedback systems are very different.