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To: John Carragher who wrote (78964)3/2/2003 8:34:45 AM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 281500
 
It would make more sense if they could take out the guns in the mountains aimed at the troops before they take out a plant. If we have the defensive capability then maybe this should be put to the nk govn.


To "Take out the Guns" would be to totally go to war with NK. A "Surgical Strike" on them is not an available option. If we take out the reprocessing plant they NK would know that if they retaliated against us in any way they were in a total war. They also know they would lose that war. Would the "Wog" factor kick in and they would do it anyway? That is the risk.

This is an enormously dangerous situation. The easiest way out is to hope that we will not get hit by a Nuke from Korea, which was sold to someone and detonated here. I think this hope is forlorn. But in all probability our fears of immediate catastrophe--our 37000 troops being hit--- will outweigh our fears of future catastophe,---having NYC or DC hit----and we will kick the can down the road.

In that case we will have to swallow our pride and see if we can negotiate a new appeasement policy with NK. It gets down to how much of a real inspection policy we can get out of them in exchange for how much we have to pay them. And we will know from past experience that they will cheat anyway.

In addition to this, we would be announcing to the other rogue states that they can blackmail us also. Iran would then build a bomb and threaten to use it against us or Israel. Would Israel make a peace agreement with them under that sort of gun? Would the "Mad Mullahs" use it against them anyway?

I have nothing against appeasement if it is a workable long term solution. Hell, we are paying off the Turks to solve the Iraq situation. But that is a short term payoff. Can long term appeasement work?

These are the kind of questions you have to answer if you are not willing to use force against NK and other Rogues. If you just say, "Oh, that is too dangerous," you are getting a couple of years respite in exchange for a long term unstoppable threat. Once the bombs are built by NK, what will you do? Too late then to surgical strike. Right now, the reprocessing plant is a choke point that will never be available again.

I am not willing to risk the lives of 37,000 troops to find out.

Then you have about six weeks to solve the situation. Tik, tik, tik, tik, tik, tik.



To: John Carragher who wrote (78964)3/2/2003 10:48:33 AM
From: HH  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I keep thinking that there is some sort of underlying
correlation between the ratcheting up on Iraq and N Korea's
provocative actions. It could be that they are simply being
opportunistic on order to gain "prestige" or negotiating
leverage but my instincts keep suggesting the possibility
of coordinated provocations between Iraq,N.Korea,al-Qaida
including 9/11.

HH