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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Art Bechhoefer who wrote (14604)	3/2/2003 12:11:25 PM
From: zonder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

I am interested to hear that the US is now governed by an illegitimate government (that is what you are saying, right?). However, I do not see how this clarifies our discussion here, where Hawkmoon was calling "illegitimate" other governments than that of the US. One can say that a government founded on grounds defying their own constitution is "illegitimate". But considering that not all countries have similar constitutions to that in the US, I cannot see how one can call "illegitimate" the government of the Principality of Monaco, for example.

To: Art Bechhoefer who wrote (14604)	3/2/2003 12:28:17 PM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

You are correct, Art. Bush was, in effect, selected and not elected. Does that Illinois study take into account the Texas-hired firm, hired by Katherine Harris, that wiped out huge numbers of voters many from the voting rolls? I also hold that this war is cover for the fact that Bush actually lose that election. Would that issue have remained prominent had 9/11 not happened? I think it would have remained a front burner issue. Instead, it all but disappeared as an issue.