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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: DavesM who wrote (365215)	3/2/2003 12:39:26 PM
From: RON BL	Respond to of 769667

Centrist Progressive is a contradiction. Its new age speak for Socialist government. While certainly better than communism they still believe that they can eliminate human nature through government intervention. They are not centrist but tilt to the left. Here in there own words is what it means. "The Centrist Party is a progressive third party in the political center. We are progressive in that we support policies that accomplish objectives like: Providing every child with a nurturing and high quality education Helping the poor escape poverty through work and social programs Ensuring that people are economically prosperous and have attained wealth by retirement Safeguarding the environment Keeping the nation healthy and providing health services to those who cannot afford them Upholding civil and human rights Preventing crime by reducing stress in tense communities Rehabilitating criminals so that they can return to productive lives Avoiding fatal foreign conflict but intervening to promote peace Encouraging citizen democracy"

To: DavesM who wrote (365215)	3/2/2003 12:44:55 PM
From: RON BL	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Dave the key statement in there that shows just how God like and elitist they are is the following. "Ensuring that people are economically prosperous and have attained wealth by retirement " This is their delusion. They are akin to a religious cult. Ironically while they laugh at Creationist theory they despise the idea of survival of the fittest. In this madness they follow the dictum that make the weak strong by making the strong weak. This policy has destroyed the education system and is in the process of destroying the economy. Thus they are far removed from the center.

To: DavesM who wrote (365215)	3/2/2003 12:46:14 PM
From: Skywatcher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

US to initiate chemical attack against Iraq with multiple weapons news.independent.co.uk Terry Jones: Could Tony Blair look at the internet now, please? guardian.co.uk Billionaire Soros criticizes Bush regime for it's "imperialist vision" post-gazette.com Get Your War On mnftiu.cc CC

To: DavesM who wrote (365215)	3/2/2003 2:54:37 PM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 769667

Russia has more oil than it needs, doesn't need Iraq's. France does have Iraqi oil contracts and guess what SO DO WE. So where's the beef there? A lot of Limbaugh BS basically. Believe that propaganda if you like but you're just blinding yourself. Attacking allies who oppose Bush's doctrine only hurts us more. How many more allies can we afford to lose? Bush's fault they distrust him to begin with. He came in like a stupid cowboy, moderated a bit and now is back to the cowboy mode. Silly boycotts of French goods. What if tehy boycott OUR goods in return? Like we need more economic hardship. Didn't Bush run as the "unifier"? What a crock. He's easily the most divisive president in modern times. His whole 2000 campaign was a lie. He ran to the middle and now performs to the right. CLinton by comparison was quite moderate. Bush is not. His tax cuts have been the worst possible thing for our economy. And he squandered so much post 9-11 goodwill. Now we have to PAY allies to help us. Centrist-progressive means common sense fiscal conservative, moderate of temperment, tough when the situation requires, unifying around the middle but forward-thinking as can be on environment, technology, peoples' futures and fairly liberal on social issues but not too far left (ie gay marriages) and moderate on what you call "socialism" which is really all our government programs set up in insure people dont fall through the cracks, especially after they retire. By the way Bush is now proposing a "socialist" prescription drug program worth 400 billion, a democrat program, though I'm sure if you read the fine print it's another giveaway to the HMO's. After all Bush owes the HMO's big-time, and Frist is their man in DC. HMO's stink. Just like Bush's polluter buddies and timber-cutting cronies. Bush is in the midst of squandering our futures, in case you hadn't noticed, including our environment, Socisal Security, Medicare and our government's financial stability. And he's done it all in two years. WCouldn't have done a worse job if he'd tried. Or maybe he has tried. Giving away everything to the richest people and his favorite corporate special interest groups. It's a real mess. Much worse than they're admitting.

To: DavesM who wrote (365215)	3/2/2003 3:32:22 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

What the hell is a "centrist progressive"? It is obviously another goofy euphemism for "leftist."