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To: gerard mangiardi who wrote (365299)3/2/2003 8:58:58 PM
From: Johannes Pilch  Respond to of 769670
 
BTW if you take those quotes literally then both the Taliban and Saddam get their power from God. So did Adolph.

Nothing on earth happens under its own power. God is not surprised by anything.

The text from which I quoted (Rom. 13) was written during the time of Nero. So Paul, and the people to whom he wrote, certainly understood the nature of persecution. There is no other reasonable way to take the text but literally. Paul obviously was not speaking metaphorically. But he was speaking in general terms about how government works. God puts governments in charge of men. He is in control even over the Taliban and over Iraq. He was in control of Adolph. This does not mean He causes evil leaders, but He certainly can use them to further His ends.

The Scriptures no where supports the idea that God is an old grandfather who always makes us comfortable. In fact they are quite clear that God sometimes uses governments to judge, chastise and/or toughen whole nations of people.

Think the just following orders type Nazis belonged to the christian coalition. They could have quoted the same Scriptural sources.

Not at all. In Romans Paul spoke generally about civil government. But the Scriptures also reveal a higher law, even above civil law, that commands Christians not obey human commands to sin.