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To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (365681)3/3/2003 3:59:45 PM
From: Johannes Pilch  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Yeah, sure:) If you cross the street, that's an action. You do it repeatedly, it's a behavior. (Guess I can't see it... you must be invisible!)

You are not viewing the behavior, you are viewing nature (me) in the process of behaving in accord or out of accord with its natural character. Stop being so dang religious.

If a whole society has sex with multiple partners (polygamy)... guess that can't be 'seen' either.

In this case you are viewing NOT behavior, but the nature that is behaving. Nature may well stay exactly as it exists, and yet the way nature behaves may well change. The new behavior and the prior behavior are judged in relation to the nature of the entity doing the behaving. Where humans are concerned, polygamy is unnatural because it is not us - no human has a biological identity consisting of one man and multiple women. ALL humans are biologically identified with only one man and only one woman - for life.

If people in Korea eat kimchee, it's an action. Since it's a mainstay of their diet... it must be a social behavior.

That is just a mushy religious view - all of this crap about "mainstay" and "repeated action" is just arbitrary hogwash (and this fella thinks he is a friggin' scientist and can't even thing with precision!). You don't even know when actions become behaviors. It is all subjective crap. If you see the people of Korea eating kimchee, then you see the people doing the eating. You do NOT see the eating itself. That is because the eating does not exist in nature. It is only an expression of what DOES exist in nature.

(BTW. I eat kimchee regularly. Indeed I make it. I even speak a good bit of Korean. I love the stuff. The Koreans have some awfully good dishes.)

Do Americans like watching TV at night? That's a behavior, and it's easy to measure.

Riiiight. Sure it is.

What in the World are you thinking?

I'm thinking that SOMEBODY here is an idiot, and it ain' me.

No 'natural' behaviors? Are you nuts?

Behaviors can occur naturally but only because they are well grounded in the natural (or physical) character of things that exist in nature. Behaviors can also be foreign to certain natural characters. But no behavior in itself is natural because to be natural it has to literally exist in nature just as a tree or any other object.

Do horses graze naturally?

Horses do this because it is grounded in their natural identity. I eat for the same reason. But I may also refuse to eat - which behavior is NOT grounded in my natural identity. I exist. I am natural. My behaviors are simply expressions of me. They may conform to what I am in nature, or they may not.

Do chimps use simple tools to pick termites out of mounds? Do teenagers act up? Do rats chew to keep their incisors trimmed? These are behaviors...

Riiight. What you've described is just a bunch of empty headed religion. In your goofy world, things just do junk "jess because dass how dey BEHAVE." It is a very dumb view, and highly inaccurate. Things behave as they do because of biological identity. Either they conform to biological identity or (for whatever reason) they run contrary to it.