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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Just_Observing who wrote (15183)	3/3/2003 7:02:06 PM
From: ChrisJP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - As many as half a million Iraqis could require medical treatment as a result of serious injuries suffered in the early stages of a war on Iraq, U.N. emergency planners said in a document disclosed Tuesday. The total includes some 100,000 expected to be injured as a direct result of combat and a further 400,000 wounded as an indirect result of the devastation, according to estimates prepared by the World Health Organization, the document said. Translation: US Coalition forces would inflict 50,000 casualties on Iraqi troops. Saddams troops and his other dirty tricks would cause the remaining 450,000 deaths. Propaganda -- ain't it wonderful ! Thanks for spreading it ! Chris

To: Just_Observing who wrote (15183)	3/3/2003 7:03:31 PM
From: Dr. Doktor	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 25898

<<U.N. Sees 500,000 Iraqi Casualties at Start of War>> Liberal Anti-American propaganda at it's worst. How many Iraqi casualties were there in GW1? Put down the crack pipe and get real idiot. March 13, 1993 SECTION: Vol. 19; No. 11; Pg. 5 LENGTH: 429 words HEADLINE: Report puts Iraqi dead at 1500 BODY: Iraqi combat deaths during the Gulf conflict were possibly as low as 1500, far below the widely accepted 100 000 figure, a former US Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) analyst reports. In an forthcoming article in the monthly journal Foreign Policy, John Heidenrich says fewer Iraqis fought in the theatre of operations than originally thought. Military prudence dictated that the Pentagon estimate the highest number; therefore its minimum estimate was 500 000 troops, logical if all Iraqi units were full strength. Heidenrich believes the number before hostilities was under 400 000, based on Iraqi prisoner reports of units deployed at only 50-75 per cent troop strength. This number fell rapidly with the desertion of several tens of thousands of Iraqis once Coalition air strikes started. Perhaps only 200 000-300 000 troops were left to fight. Based on Iraqi prisoner statements, Heidenrich contends that Coalition aerial bombardment produced an overall casualty rate of only two or even one per cent, because "its main purpose was to destroy Iraqi equipment", not dug-in soldiers. At the 300 000 level, with 1-2 per cent casualties and using the standard three-wounded-to-one-dead ratio, Heidenrich estimates the total at 750-1500 dead and 2250-4500 wounded from the air campaign. In the ground war, similar formulas give "a few hundred" to an absolute maximum of 6500 dead, and an absolute maximum of 19 500 wounded. The upper figures would be if all vehicles hit had full crews. Heidenrich points out that of the 71 000 Iraqi soldiers taken prisoner, only around 2000 were wounded. In addition, US forces buried only 577 Iraqis. His estimate of civilian deaths is less than 100. In May 1991, the DIA estimated 100 000 Iraqis killed in action, 300 000 wounded, and 150 000 desertions. It added that the data had an error factor of "50 per cent or higher." Heidenrich says that the Pentagon's reluctance to publish more definitive casualty figures was due to "quite simply, fear. Senior officials fear that any estimate will provide ammunition to Pentagon critics. A high estimate could bring charges of barbarism. A low one might bring accusations of a coverup. And any estimate could evoke unwanted (and unfair) parallels between (the GulfWar) and the body count mentality of Vietnam." US casualties were low. Despite a pre-war prediction by the Center for Defense Information of 10 000 dead and 35 000 wounded, the total was 148 combat dead and 467 wounded. Of those, 35 deaths and 72 injuries were from 'friendly fire'.