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To: JohnM who wrote (79457)	3/4/2003 12:08:17 PM
From: Karen Lawrence	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Sweet.

To: JohnM who wrote (79457)	3/4/2003 9:35:49 PM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

John, I would rather not have every disagreement degenerate into some contest of which political party is better than another. Hypocrites run in both parties, and I never inferred or stated otherwise. Seems to me you're struggling to find a reason to blame it all on Republicans or something. No doubt peaceniks come from all political stripes. Probably more from the far left than the right. So what. I never called you a peacenik. So your inference is a non sequitur response. The fact is congress represents all the people of the United States. And the congress has voted on whether we should allow our President to use military force against the dictatorial regime in Iraq. Protestors obviously disagree with that democratic decision. So be it. They have a right to disagree. I also have the right to refer to them as peaceniks, because, much of what they say, is nothing but seditionist speech. There is no doubt in my mind, the peace protestors have made it far more likely Hussein will not disarm and seek exile voluntarily. If they truly wanted a peaceful solution to this conflict, the wisdom of their protesting has made it less likely, not more. If Hussein saw an America united behind their President, (like the vote in congress demonstrated), he may have sought asylum with his billions still in tack. We will never know, but the peace protestors may have just cost the lives of american military members, by emboldening Hussein to stay the power hungry course to the end. Together we can do amazing things to change the world, torn apart, by playing divisive politics on important life and death mattes we will not. In my humble opinion, underlying much of the U.S. protestor’s motivation is a deep desire to score political points. They didn't raise a storm when President Clinton bombed Kosovo without congressional, or U.N. approval. When he launched Tomahawk missiles against Iraq, or when Saddam killed thousands of innocent civilians. So it's hypocritical for them to protest so vehemently today. Let me ask you a simple question. When we go to war, do you hope America wins decisively and quickly with minimum casualties to our troops? I ask that question, because, I was surprised to recently watch a round table discussion in Seattle, in which the audience responded loudly "NO"! There are exceptions, but yes, I do consider most of the anti-war protesting to be frivolous. I've read and watched with as open a mind as I could muster the other side of this debate. I've also watched the cognitive dissonance they've gone through when shifting from one position to the next on why Hussein should stay in power and threaten the world. I am not impressed. It went from "we need congressional approval", to "we need a U.N. mandate", to "it's all about oil", to "it's all about the Israeli lobby", to the latest talking point "whose going to pay for it". Much of it is political fodder and very frivolous. That's my two cents anyway...