To: Mike M2 who wrote (225246 ) 3/4/2003 12:55:37 PM From: RealMuLan Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258 Mike, there are several types of factory workers in China. From the top: 1. Those who works for high-profit, good-managed big factories (like Shang Hai BaoShan Steel Company, for example), they live in an utopia-like community. They have their own schools (k12) (totally free), their own free transportation, their own housing, their own top-of-line “social welfare” system (pension, health care etc.). So 80% + of their income are disposable income. 2. Those who works for the factories which have medium-range profit, ok-management. These people live a good live, but far from affluent as the 1st group. These people also have good very low cost housing and almost free health care (means you have to pay 10-20% of cost, but it is still affordable since the medical care cost still low in China) and pension. 3. Those who works for the joint-adventure. These workers have minimal benefit, but relatively high salary (compared to the 2nd group). But they do not have pension (although I think the employer has to contribute to a national pension fund (sort of like Social security fund here), and some of them have to buy/rent their own apartment (at the market price), and most of them have NO health care benefit. Young people prefer to work in this type of factory. 4. Lay-off workers, most of them are 40+ years old. These “workers” still have their previous housing, and 300-400 Yuan/month (sort of like welfare/life time pension). The money is enough to feed them (basic food) only. And most of them have to go out to do some small vendor business in order to get by. They have no health care benefit. And these are the potential social problems. I know perhaps you want to ask me the proportion of each group, since there is no official stats. Available, so I would take a guess, just a guess only: Group 1: 20% Group 2: 30% Group 3: 15% Group 4: 30% And I think this perhaps can also refer to white color workers. And I think there are 5% of work force, to say the least, works on contract, so they are excluded from these. Hope this helps.