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To: Alighieri who wrote (162904)	3/4/2003 1:28:51 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Respond to of 1574691

Al, <You probably believe that Saddam flew the planes in the WTC too.> Where the hell did you get this nonsense? Do you admit that it was Saddam's fault for kicking the inspectors out in 1998? Do you admit that it is Saddam playing the shell game in Iraq right now, and not Bush? Do you admit that Saddam has no intention of complying with U.N. resolutions to disarm? Why don't you put aside your personal hatred of Bush for a split second and answer these questions? Tenchusatsu

To: Alighieri who wrote (162904)	3/4/2003 2:44:53 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574691

First there was regime change, then there was disarmament, now there is regime change again. There has been no change in our policy of regime change since well before Clinton left office. Bush never intended for the UN step to work and is going to make sure it does not This is an utterly absurd statement. Bush gave the UN every chance to step up and do what is required. The UN has, once again, failed miserably.

To: Alighieri who wrote (162904)	3/4/2003 2:58:50 PM
From: hmaly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574691

Al Re.. I guess it was Bush's fault that Saddam kicked out inspectors back in 1998. You probably believe that Saddam flew the planes in the WTC too. You say that as if Saddam didn't kick out the inspectors. http://www.statenews.com/editionsfall97/111497/page1.html Iraq kicks out U.S. inspectors U.N. pulls entire team in response AP • KIMBERLY E. MCDONALD An F-14 “Tomcat” assigned to Fighter Squadron 211 launches Thursday from the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz in the Persian Gulf. The Nimitz is deployed in the Persian Gulf to enforce U.N. sanctions against Iraq by patrolling the “no-fly zone.” Refusing to let Iraq dictate who can inspect its weapons, the United Nations decided Thursday to withdraw all arms inspectors from Iraq after Saddam Hussein ordered Americans on the U.N. team out immediately. President Clinton responded to the Iraqi president’s decision by pledging to deal “in a very determined way” with Saddam’s expulsion of American weapons inspectors Thursday. But for the time being, the United States pursued a diplomatic solution rather than a military strike. Thursday’s developments to the conflict, which has seen tensions rise in the last month, drew a mixed response from the MSU community. MORE Here is another http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/july-dec98/iraq_11-10.html ELIZABETH FARNSWORTH: First tonight, another showdown between Iraq and the United Nations. We start with some background from Correspondent Spencer Michels. SPENCER MICHELS: Ten days ago, on October 31st, Iraq announced it would bar UN inspectors from visiting suspected weapons production sites unless the United Nations Security Council moved to end trade sanctions against the country. NIZAR HAMDOON, Iraqi Ambassador to the UN: They will not be given any access to any of our installations from today on. Iraq halts inspections SPENCER MICHESL: The Iraqi move sparked a threat of military action from the United States and drew a unanimous condemnation from the UN Security Council and Secretary-General Kofi Annan last week. KOFI ANNAN, UN Secretary-General: It is a total breach of Security Council resolutions and the Council has asked them to resume cooperation immediately. SPENCER MICHELS: Annan, last February, brokered a deal with Iraq -- negotiated directly with Saddam Hussein himself -- in which Iraq promised fuller cooperation with UN inspections of facilities suspected of producing weapons of mass destruction. In return, the United States and Britain backed away from plans to launch a bombing campaign against Iraq. Under the UN resolutions that followed the Gulf War, economic sanctions that bar most imports and exports by Iraq, including oil, with some exceptions for food and medicine, are to be lifted only when UN inspectors certify that the country has eliminated its weapons of mass destruction. But recent Iraqi statements have accused the United States and the UN of not honoring those terms and trying to continue indefinitely the sanctions. Iraqis say they have been cut off from supplies of food or medicine, and that the sanctions have led to the deaths of 1.5 million citizens. They also claim they have been forced to halt repairs and rebuilding of water and sewage systems damaged or destroyed in the war. TAHA YASSIN RAMADAN, Iraqi Vice President: (speaking through interpreter) Iraq cannot deal positively with the members of the Security Council unless there is a clear stance about lifting the embargo on Iraq. SPENCER MICHELS: But the US has argued that Iraq is not keeping its word, by failing to cooperate with UN inspectors. SECRETARY MADELEINE ALBRIGHT: We are going to insist that Saddam Hussein live up to his obligations. We have in the past used the combination of diplomacy and the threat of the use of force. We are consulting about other options. Other options Now that I have shown you that Iraq did kick out the inspectors, you show me why I should believe Saddam flew the planes into the WTC. The simple truth is that Saddams refusal to comply with UN resolutions, forced us to respond with the sanctions, and the no fly zones, and the stationing of troops in Sa; and it was these responses which caused OBL to call has jihad. I have shown you the link between Saddam and OBL. Why not disprove that link by showing me that OBL didn't call his jihad against America because of those troops in SA, or the sanctions, or the no fly zones. First there was regime change, then there was disarmament, now there is regime change again. I know this is over your head, but if Saddam refuses to disclose his WMD, it is likely a new regime will. Therefore, regime change will accomplish US and UN goals of disarmnament. Bush never intended for the UN step to work and is going to make sure it does not, Your hatred of GW is forcing you to say something you can't prove. My bet is that even today, if Saddam disclosed all of his WMD, there would be no war. Prove otherwise. so he will destroy the UN and anything else that gets in the way of his goals. Silly statement, like the UN actually had a force to be destroyed. Where is it? Is it another force de frappe, or a force de farce.