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To: Krowbar who wrote (7182)	3/4/2003 10:19:13 PM
From: Stevefoder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 8393

No PV solar is much more than .16 to .17 $/KW-HR. I believe the goal is to try to get it below $1 now. We have not gotten there yet. If we could do .16 or so, then PV solar would be going in a big way now. Places such as some of the smaller Hawaiian islands (Kauai, Big Island, Molakai) have retail electricity rates in the range of .25 with mostly diesel generation. PV solar is nowhere near competitive yet.

To: Krowbar who wrote (7182)	3/5/2003 11:24:41 PM
From: alfranco	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 8393

Del, I couldn't find your Duke Solar article but another mentions Duke's price will be 16-17 cents/kWh. reviewjournal.com I take that to mean Duke will be paid 16-17c/kWh without Duke declaring their costs in my link above. <Can't we do that good with strictly pv in Nevada?> Yes, (using SMUD's figure of $3/W equating to 10cents/kWh for Sacramento sunshine levels which is less than Boulder City where this project is going in) IF installed PV costs are around $4.50/W to the buyer which would mean 15 cents/kWh (and best commercial customers are probably paying $6/W installed or 20cents/kWh)... all before any rebates. The PIER/SMUD grant with Unisolar is aiming for that precise target, $4.50/kWh with peelnstick as the roof with reduced install costs and this would equate to 15cents/kWh in Sacramento and probably less in Boulder, NV (exact costs as you know are a function of sunshine input so lower in higher sunlight areas and vice versa). The advantage of PV is that it can be put on site (and as BIPV displace building costs) vs. necessarily large multi-MW solar thermal farms with constant operating and maintenance needs. Solar thermal farms also require transmission and distribution with attendant costs to transmit the power to the end user. Al