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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: epicure who wrote (15725)	3/5/2003 11:13:13 AM
From: Karen Lawrence	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

Foreign ministers of France, Germany and Russia say they will ``not allow'' war resolution on Iraq at United Nations JOHN LEICESTER, Associated Press Writer Wednesday, March 5, 2003 ©2003 Associated Press URL: sfgate.com (03-05) 07:54 PST PARIS (AP) -- The foreign ministers of France, Germany and Russia said Wednesday they will "not allow" passage of a American-backed U.N. resolution to authorize war against Iraq -- further highlighting the deep trans-Atlantic split between Washington and two of its closest allies. The three ministers held an emergency meeting in Paris as U.S.-led preparations for war accelerate and the U.N. Security Council prepares to consider a resolution backed by Washington that could open the door for military action. "We will not allow a resolution to pass that authorizes resorting to force," France's Dominique de Villepin said at a press conference alongside his Russian and German counterparts. "Russia and France, as permanent members of the Security Council, will assume their full responsibilities on this point." When asked whether France would use its veto in the council as Russia has suggested it might do, de Villepin said, "We will take all our responsibilities. We are in total agreement with the Russians." In Washington, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said President Bush was confident the resolution would be passed and said the resistance from France, Russia and Germany did not necessarily represent their vote. "What you are observing is a fluid situation as different nations make different statements that all lead up to the one day which is the most important day, which is the day of the vote," Fleischer said. Britain, the United States and Spain have proposed a draft resolution that says Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein has missed his final opportunity to disarm. Other Security Council members, led by France, say the U.N. inspections are working and want the inspectors to be given more time to hunt for banned chemical and biological arms. On Tuesday, Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov suggested Russia could veto the U.S.-backed resolution. Ivanov also said his country was unlikely to abstain in any Security Council vote on Iraq. "Russia will not support any decision that would directly or indirectly open the way to war with Iraq," he was quoted as saying by the British Broadcasting Corp. The Russian diplomat has been shuttling between European capitals to discuss the Iraq crisis, meeting in London earlier Wednesday with British Prime Minister Tony Blair. The three ministers said that inspections were producing results and that weapons experts should be given more time to search for arms that Iraq is not supposed to have, as set out in U.N. resolution 1441. "We see there is progress," German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer said. "I do not see personally how we can stop the process of resolution 1441 and resort to war." De Villepin said he believes the results of inspections "were more and more encouraging," citing the destruction of Iraqi missiles, information being received about biological and chemical agents and interviews with scientists. But de Villepin also said Iraq needs to cooperate "more actively" with inspections. "The inspections cannot go on forever," he said. The French foreign minister also set out a framework for giving inspectors more muscle, including detailed measures to gage whether inspections are making progress. De Villepin added that he believes a war in Iraq would increase tensions in the Middle East, create instability and boost the risk of terrorism. He also voiced France's objection to any unilateral U.S. war on Iraq. "The United Nations is indispensable," de Villepin said. "The United Nations is the authority of legitimacy for the international community." "We can only achieve peace together. And to do it, we would need the United Nations -- to organize, to bring their legitimacy to the action of the international community in Iraq." Secretary of State Colin Powell told Russia's state-controlled Channel One television in an interview aired late Tuesday that the United States was prepared to lead a war against Iraq with or without the consent of the United Nations. ©2003 Associated Press

To: epicure who wrote (15725)	3/5/2003 11:36:36 AM
From: AK2004	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 25898

X re: Let's just nuke 'em"- would qualify. Plenty of those folks. It is good they embarrass you. When you get around to realizing that they are actually here, get back to me. I am yet to meet one who said, "nuke 'em and actually meant it", give me a break OTOH, lots of pro-peace folks seem to be in love with terrorists who are killing civilians, women and children. One of your fellow pro-peacenik once said that the biggest crimes against humanity of the 20s century is that England and US gang up against a true genius, a visionary ahead of its time, adolf hitler...... tell me how do you feel about your company?