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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (80001)3/6/2003 6:05:21 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
<check out the societal fault lines in Israel:>

But the U.S. has the best track record, of any nation, at dissolving those fault lines.

In the Balkans, Catholic Croats and Orthodox Serbs lived in adjacent but separate villages, since not long after the fall of the Roman Empire. They hated each other, there was no intermarriage, there was chronic violence between the communities. Then, in the 19th Century, many of them emigrate to New York. At first, they set up a similar Balkanization, with first-generation Americans marrying within their ethnic group, living in separate neighborhoods, etc. But, within a couple of generations, those divisions, which had been preserved century after century in the Old Country, had completely dissolved. And the descendants of those 19th Century Croat and Serb immigrants, have now made the return journey, gun in hand, and are trying to Fix the endless Balkan ethnic mess.

When the Irish emigrated to the U.S., there was a similar debate, about whether they could ever fit in, in a "Protestant Nation". It seems to have worked out OK. Israelis would fit in, just as well as Mormons have. There would be friction and arguments, and some of the arguments would be loud. But it would work out.

My point in this thought experiment, is to demonstrate that Jews haven't gotten what they set out to achieve, with Zionism. The idea of a truly independent nation-state, not dependant on the wider world, especially a nation of only 5 million, just isn't possible in the Global Village.