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To: Mannie who wrote (24452)	3/7/2003 12:57:58 PM
From: abuelita	Respond to of 104157

yup!

To: Mannie who wrote (24452)	3/7/2003 1:10:17 PM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 104157

Yes, that speech was quite compelling. So is all of the following............. Iraq strengthens air force with French parts washtimes.com A French company has been selling spare parts to Iraq for its fighter jets and military helicopters during the past several months, according to U.S. intelligence officials. The unidentified company sold the parts to a trading company in the United Arab Emirates, which then shipped the parts through a third country into Iraq by truck. The spare parts included goods for Iraq's French-made Mirage F-1 jets and Gazelle attack helicopters. An intelligence official said the illegal spare-parts pipeline was discovered in the past two weeks and that sensitive intelligence about the transfers indicates that the parts were smuggled to Iraq as recently as January. ___________________________________________________________ {French} Ties with Iraq iht.com .....Throughout the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq war, right up to the UN embargo imposed after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990, France sold Iraq $25 billion worth of weaponry. Industry sources say French companies still haven't been paid for everything they supplied to Iraq. If Saddam goes, those debts will be a write-off. The UN embargo hit the volume of French exports but, once the UN oil-for-food program was introduced in 1996, the French share of the Iraqi market became larger than ever as Saddam rewarded the closest thing it had to a Western ally. A report commissioned by the French Parliament and published in September 2002 put the value of French exports to Iraq since sanctions were eased at $3.5 billion. France's pharmaceutical firms, for example, are well-placed on the Iraqi market - even if their fortunes vary according to the way the political winds are blowing. Industry experts say that in July 2001, when relations with France went through a chilly period, Saddam froze these pharmaceutical companies' contracts. They were unfrozen once diplomatic relations returned to normal. France still managed to sell Iraq $650 million worth of goods in 2001, more than any other country. The telecommunications firm Alcatel, the engineering company Alstom and Renault's utility vehicle division all made substantial sales. Another car maker, Peugeot, did well in 2000 and 2001. France, unsurprisingly, was the Western country with the largest number of stands at last November's Baghdad Trade Fair..... ___________________________________________________________ From: paul_philp Friday, Mar 7, 2003 12:47 AM View Replies (1) \| Gertz: U.S. intelligence discovers French company selling Iraq military spare parts as recently as January... Developing...

To: Mannie who wrote (24452)	3/7/2003 1:18:48 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 104157

I must be biased. I liked the US, British, Spanish & Chillean speeches much better. Plenty of substance, irrefutable facts, sound logic & reason. I don't think that any of these countries have any material financial interests clouding their political agendas either. And I don't believe that these countries have any fears that the complete disarming of Iraq would reveal instances of illegal sales of WMD components as well as other illegal sales of military components. Other than that, I though the French speech was ...... um...... interesting. OOF Ö¿Ö

To: Mannie who wrote (24452)	3/7/2003 1:39:22 PM
From: abuelita	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 104157

scoot- the CBC just broadcast a press interview with the french u.n. ambassador in which he was also very compelling. he said: "one country can win a war, but it takes many counties to win peace". i think that has to be our new quote of the day. sorry altie <s> rose

To: Mannie who wrote (24452)	3/7/2003 6:33:57 PM
From: altair19	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 104157

Scott, nope, missed the French Ambassador's speech...with a client. He always speaks eloquently and at the same time he knows a bunch of French companies are trying to make deals around the oil fields (Schlumberger leading the pack)with the US so they don't miss out on the peace time era in Iraq. I wouldn't trust the French any more than I trust Bush and his team. I can't name anything significant that the French government has done for their European allies, the UN or the US since 1940. I can think of a few things we did for them. Bastard guys........ Altair19@reactionary.com <g>