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To: foundation who wrote (5924)	3/7/2003 5:33:28 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12247

I suppose American soldiers should expect similar torture when they are captured. The Geneva Conventions were to avoid mutual exchange of gratuitous cruelty. The USA wriggling out of calling the prisoners of war prisoners of war is dishonest. The USA should not whine about China and human rights. I don't think we'll be hearing much in the way of lecturing and hectoring at Chinese politicians and diplomats in future. The War Crimes Tribunal might become quite busy once Milosevic has been dealt with [the lawyers are stringing him along, as long as the money keeps flowing]. Americans might be in the dock. I wonder how they know the people they torture to death are actually guilty of anything in particular. Would a judge find them guilty of some crime? Habeas Corpus is turning to Have a Corpse instead. Ugly! <The men's death certificates, made public earlier this week, showed that one captive, known only as Dilawar, 22, from the Khost region, died from "blunt force injuries to lower extremities complicating coronary artery disease" while another captive, Mullah Habibullah, 30, suffered from blood clot in the lung that was exacerbated by a "blunt force injury". US officials previously admitted using "stress and duress" on prisoners including sleep deprivation, denial of medication for battle injuries, forcing them to stand or kneel for hours on end with hoods on, subjecting them to loud noises and sudden flashes of light and engaging in culturally humiliating practices such as having them kicked by female officers. While the US claims this still constitutes "humane" treatment, human rights groups including Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have denounced it as torture as defined by international treaty. The US has also come under heavy criticism for its reported policy of handing suspects over to countries such as Jordan, Egypt or Morocco, where torture techniques are an established part of the security apparatus. Legally, Human Rights Watch says, there is no distinction between using torture directly and subcontracting it out. > Welcome to the law of the jungle, red in tooth and claw. Mqurice